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Re: Falcon punch!

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:37 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Have fun, HBM.
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Re: Falcon punch!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:45 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:One benefit from this is purely political. The "Anything the Government Does is BAD!" boys will be more willing to fund projects when local companies are more involved in them.
Maybe it's because I was born in 1981, and have had to endure my entire life under the Thatcher/Ragen economic consensus, but I'm fed up to the back teeth of this cult of Anything the Government Does is BAD!", and have no appetite for appeasing the kind of halfwits who spout that nonsense.

In my experience, anything that the Government outsources is rotten. Rotten to the core.
Same with me, HBM, but we have to live with the nutters, so this will help remove their opposition to space exploration.

And, re my other post, I'm not going to regurgitate the history of NASA, no time. I will give you one example, however. It took SEVEN years to build the LEM because it had been given to one company to develop. No competition after the contract was let, so Grumman could do whatever they wanted with it.
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Post by Faithfree » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:45 pm

Although it may look like a forum, this site is actually a crowd-sourced science project modelling the slow but inexorable heat death of the universe.

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Re: Falcon punch!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:50 pm

Faithfree wrote:Possibly an explanation for this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 919095.htm
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Wow! "Not one of ours," says official "very close to the administration" of Zeta Reticuli.
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Re: Falcon punch!

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:56 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:One benefit from this is purely political. The "Anything the Government Does is BAD!" boys will be more willing to fund projects when local companies are more involved in them.
Maybe it's because I was born in 1981, and have had to endure my entire life under the Thatcher/Ragen economic consensus, but I'm fed up to the back teeth of this cult of Anything the Government Does is BAD!", and have no appetite for appeasing the kind of halfwits who spout that nonsense.

In my experience, anything that the Government outsources is rotten. Rotten to the core.
Same with me, HBM, but we have to live with the nutters, so this will help remove their opposition to space exploration.

And, re my other post, I'm not going to regurgitate the history of NASA, no time. I will give you one example, however. It took SEVEN years to build the LEM because it had been given to one company to develop. No competition after the contract was let, so Grumman could do whatever they wanted with it.
But imagine if instead of Grumman, the job had been given to actual NASA employees, who were motivated for personal reasons to get the project done.
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Re: Falcon punch!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:16 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:But imagine if instead of Grumman, the job had been given to actual NASA employees, who were motivated for personal reasons to get the project done.
You ever worked for a government? :funny:

Seriously, Grumman had built, among others, the Hellcat, so they had experience building things like this, as much as anybody else of course, and more than most. NASA would have had to start from scratch. During it's history NASA has confined fabrication efforts to one-off projects. The launch vehicles are made by private companies under NASA supervision. This new initiative will simply expand that.

And don't let the "Big Government BAD" comment divert you, it's a benefit of the privatization, not a driver.
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