Scary potatoes - or the fear of genetically modified food

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Scary potatoes - or the fear of genetically modified food

Post by quisquose » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:31 pm

I heard this on the Today programme this morning:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/ne ... 727561.stm
Eight hundred genetically modified potato plants are to be introduced to a field in Norfolk today.

Science reporter Tom Feilden talks to Professor Jonathan Jones of Sainsbury's Laboratories about the importance of the new type of potatoes. Kirtana Chandrasekaran, from Friends of the Earth, outlines what she sees as the dangers of GM food trials.
Did anybody else hear this? I found Kirtana Chandrasekaran's response very unconvincing, sort of "I don't like it because I don't like it".

More details here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/10261874.stm

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Re: Scary potatoes - or the fear of genetically modified foo

Post by ChildInAZoo » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:43 pm

Really? It seems she laid out a number of points:

1) expense,
2) no need (because of alternatives),
3) risk of contamination of other crops (through interbreeding I assume),
4) risk of spreading antibiotic resistance (through gene transfer and ordinary selective pressures I assume),
5) increased pesticide use

Those seem to be criteria that one could use to evaluate a course of action.

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Re: Scary potatoes - or the fear of genetically modified foo

Post by Epictetus » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:13 am

haven't we been "genetically modifying" our food for thousands of years through the process of artificial selection?
"I have seen great surprise expressed in horticultural works at the wonderful skill of gardeners, in having produced such splendid results from such poor materials; but the art has been simple, and, as far as the final result is concerned, has been followed almost unconsciously. It has consisted in always cultivating the best-known variety, sowing its seeds, and, when a slightly better variety chanced to appear, selecting it, and so onwards. But the gardeners of the classical period who cultivated the best pears which they could procure, never thought what splendid fruit we should eat; though we owe our excellent fruit in some small degree, to their having naturally chosen and preserved the best varieties they could anywhere find.

"A large amount of change, thus slowly and unconsciously accumulated, explains, as I believe, the well-known fact, that in a number of cases we cannot recognize, and therefore do not know, the wild parent-stocks of the plants which have been longest cultivated in our flower and kitchen gardens..." --Charles Darwin
see also Jared Diamond, How to Make an Almond, in "Guns, Germs, and Steel."
Blah, blah, blah

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Re: Scary potatoes - or the fear of genetically modified foo

Post by Feck » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:30 am

There are many ways of engineering crop species to benefit mankind ..and many ways to ensure that such crops do not affect the environment.

It is such a shame that the advice of many studies much work and ethical debates by geneticists have been totally fucking ignored .

engineering a crop to be resistant to your brand of weed killer then telling poor farmers that they could not keep seed but had to re-buy from you next year is wrong on many levels ,but mostly shows you have paid no care about the spread of your crop into the enviroment etc.


I have had so many arguments about this with uneducated people trying to explain about this but .
If Monsanto and their ilk are going to break laws buy off the FDA etc and trash the whole moral point of GM'ing crops then I will not defend them.

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