Orca kills trainer.

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Post by piscator » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:46 am

the Tlingit word for orca is "Keet"

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Post by JimC » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:04 am

maiforpeace wrote:I am sorry someone died. I don't think it should be a big shock to anyone though.

At best I tolerate zoos for people to see wild animals. Theme parks like Marine World, circus shows and acts that employ wild creatures really make me sick. I don't care how humanely they are treating those animals, they are not here for our entertainment and amusement. Leave the poor creatures alone, let them be wild.
I agree, particularly about circus style acts. However, I have seen documentaries of seals in large, well thought out tanks being trained (by food reward), to come on land, roll over, open their mouths etc. to assist vetinary inspection rather than a public show, which is a different kettle of fish.

If zoos are very well planned, the animals can have pretty good lives, and they can be both important public education resources as well as reservoirs for captive breeding. The habitats need to be organised to fit the animals natural behaviour as much as possible, and the animals should be sourced by captive breeding as much as possible. Good food, freedom from predators and vetinary care at least partly make up for loss of freedom...
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Re: Orca kills trainer.

Post by devogue » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:47 pm

That fish should be hung drawn and quartered.

Young ones today. :nono:

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Re: Orca kills trainer.

Post by hackenslash » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:04 pm

I see the American Family Association has weighed in, suggesting that the animal should be stoned to death, conversant with some ancient Jewish law.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/afa-call ... 85911.html

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:37 pm

JimC wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:I am sorry someone died. I don't think it should be a big shock to anyone though.

At best I tolerate zoos for people to see wild animals. Theme parks like Marine World, circus shows and acts that employ wild creatures really make me sick. I don't care how humanely they are treating those animals, they are not here for our entertainment and amusement. Leave the poor creatures alone, let them be wild.
I agree, particularly about circus style acts. However, I have seen documentaries of seals in large, well thought out tanks being trained (by food reward), to come on land, roll over, open their mouths etc. to assist vetinary inspection rather than a public show, which is a different kettle of fish.

If zoos are very well planned, the animals can have pretty good lives, and they can be both important public education resources as well as reservoirs for captive breeding. The habitats need to be organised to fit the animals natural behaviour as much as possible, and the animals should be sourced by captive breeding as much as possible. Good food, freedom from predators and vetinary care at least partly make up for loss of freedom...

For Meerkats, maybe, but not for a 7 ton Orca.

The best way to study these beasts is in their natural habitat.
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Re: Orca kills trainer.

Post by devogue » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:43 pm

hackenslash wrote:I see the American Family Association has weighed in, suggesting that the animal should be stoned to death, conversant with some ancient Jewish law.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/afa-call ... 85911.html

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Jesus. I was only joking... :lol:

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Re: Orca kills trainer.

Post by JimC » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:08 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
JimC wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:I am sorry someone died. I don't think it should be a big shock to anyone though.

At best I tolerate zoos for people to see wild animals. Theme parks like Marine World, circus shows and acts that employ wild creatures really make me sick. I don't care how humanely they are treating those animals, they are not here for our entertainment and amusement. Leave the poor creatures alone, let them be wild.
I agree, particularly about circus style acts. However, I have seen documentaries of seals in large, well thought out tanks being trained (by food reward), to come on land, roll over, open their mouths etc. to assist vetinary inspection rather than a public show, which is a different kettle of fish.

If zoos are very well planned, the animals can have pretty good lives, and they can be both important public education resources as well as reservoirs for captive breeding. The habitats need to be organised to fit the animals natural behaviour as much as possible, and the animals should be sourced by captive breeding as much as possible. Good food, freedom from predators and vetinary care at least partly make up for loss of freedom...

For Meerkats, maybe, but not for a 7 ton Orca.

The best way to study these beasts is in their natural habitat.
Absolutely! Certainly not Orcas, probably not dolphins, expecially the circus-performance type places.
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