The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[charlou]

I'm going to throw this out for discussion, but I am not sure it's a good idea to pursue, so let's DISCUSS it for a while.

NOT ACT ON IT.

OK?

We think we could be near endgame, possibly at lynch or lose today depending on what the sk/vig does and if our doc or blockers get lucky tonight.

Does a mass role claim make sense? With 5 townies dead, some of whom were suspected, it may be that some specials have nothing to report that could clear another player.

I'd considered suggesting this earlier, but I think your role is why we should not.

[charlou]

@@vote UT@@

[Mantisdreamz]

Would Athene bus Feck?

i think so

[charlou]

Athene hasn't been anywhere near my scum picks ... I've been very neutral on her. I'll reread her posts in isolation. In the meantime, would like to hear some solid reasoning for why she's got a wagon on her atm.

[Mantisdreamz]

I'm going to throw this out for discussion, but I am not sure it's a good idea to pursue, so let's DISCUSS it for a while.

NOT ACT ON IT.

OK?

We think we could be near endgame, possibly at lynch or lose today depending on what the sk/vig does and if our doc or blockers get lucky tonight.

Does a mass role claim make sense? With 5 townies dead, some of whom were suspected, it may be that some specials have nothing to report that could clear another player.

I think it depends on whether or not we want to have a plan and discuss collaboration between town and what the specials should do before the big mess that will be your death. OR - whether we want to see what happens after the double night round, gain our bearings and see who's left.

worst case scenario is that we end up lynching a town today, and the double night round brings about 4 kills. leaving us at 3 town (if we have a vig) or 2 town (if it's an SK). Both scenarios we lose.

Granted, that is the worst case though. But even if we do lynch a scum today, and let's just say there are still 4 kills of town during that time, if we have a vig, then we have 4 town left and we have one day to get the lynch right for sure.

But - that is only if those 4 kills go through and it happens to all townies... and this might not be the case, so it might not be as bleak as it could potentially seem..

Hope this is making sense, I'm really sleepy


So -- I don't know. I'm kind of wondering if there should be a mass claim -- because if that is done - (we already have Ob as princess, UT as protector of princess, ksen as tracker).... and then if the vig/sk, doctor and seer claim - that leaves us with 5 unknowns and a more condensed list of people to choose from for the lynch today. and for and if it is a vig to choose tonight. and even if it's not a vig and actually an sk -- won't they sort of have to pretend to be vig anyway, and work with town??

[charlou]

rereading thread and found this .. I'd skipped over it the first time.

If this was TR then the choice of zig would say to me that it's a vig. Would this be true on ratz?

Yes I would think so.Makes sense with the flavour too

You're familiar with the flavour? This would explain why you've not been confused about it. Heh, that was the main reason I've been iffy about you.


My list most town to most scum:

ob, ut (clear)

rc, b.ter, mantis - leaning town

athene, ironclad, feck - neutral unsure

DP - unsure leaning scum

ksen - I don't believe his claim.

[Mantisdreamz]

what's it about DP for you, Charlou?

[charlou]

I'm going to throw this out for discussion, but I am not sure it's a good idea to pursue, so let's DISCUSS it for a while.

NOT ACT ON IT.

OK?

We think we could be near endgame, possibly at lynch or lose today depending on what the sk/vig does and if our doc or blockers get lucky tonight.

Does a mass role claim make sense? With 5 townies dead, some of whom were suspected, it may be that some specials have nothing to report that could clear another player.

I think it depends on whether or not we want to have a plan and discuss collaboration between town and what the specials should do before the big mess that will be your death. OR - whether we want to see what happens after the double night round, gain our bearings and see who's left.

worst case scenario is that we end up lynching a town today, and the double night round brings about 4 kills. leaving us at 3 town (if we have a vig) or 2 town (if it's an SK). Both scenarios we lose.

Granted, that is the worst case though. But even if we do lynch a scum today, and let's just say there are still 4 kills of town during that time, if we have a vig, then we have 4 town left and we have one day to get the lynch right for sure.

But - that is only if those 4 kills go through and it happens to all townies... and this might not be the case, so it might not be as bleak as it could potentially seem..

Hope this is making sense, I'm really sleepy


So -- I don't know. I'm kind of wondering if there should be a mass claim -- because if that is done - (we already have Ob as princess, UT as protector of princess, ksen as tracker).... and then if the vig/sk, doctor and seer claim - that leaves us with 5 unknowns and a more condensed list of people to choose from for the lynch today. and for and if it is a vig to choose tonight. and even if it's not a vig and actually an sk -- won't they sort of have to pretend to be vig anyway, and work with town??

I get where you're coming from ... it does give town a bit more information and a degree of control going into a double night phase ... that would be useful for our specials ...

Not sure about your thoughts on an sk, though ... Yes, they can pretend to be a vig, but that doesn't mean they'll necessarily act as one during the double night round. An sk with a last person standing win condition will be just as interested in picking off specials as scum will be. That said, if it is an sk, I think it's unlikely they have that win condition, because I doubt they'd have missed a night one kill?

[charlou]

what's it about DP for you, Charlou?

Something about his post listing his thoughts on players doesn't ring genuine to me. At the start of today DP was in my neutral unsure group and you and feck were in the unsure leaning scum group.

Any player in my neutral unsure group can go either way for me atm. ironclad is unlikely to lean scum but I'm keeping in mind I've no experience with his game, so I don't know if his posting style was genuine playfulness or exploitative wifom generation. I've reread Athene's posts, and I've noted the context of why ob and UT have voted for her. I could be persuaded to vote for her.

As it is, I'll go with ##vote DP##

[Mantisdreamz]

Not sure about your thoughts on an sk, though ... Yes, they can pretend to be a vig, but that doesn't mean they'll necessarily act as one during the double night round. An sk with a last person standing win condition will be just as interested in picking off specials as scum will be. That said, if it is an sk, I think it's unlikely they have that win condition, because I doubt they'd have missed a night one kill?

yea, that's a good point.

When I read DP's summary, I thought what he said rang pretty true.

anyway, off to bed

@@vote Uselesstwit@@
##vote Feck##

(to widen the scope of votes in case something happens before nightfall)

[r.c]

@@vote uselesstwit@@

##vote athene##

[Feck]

I don't trust Ksen ..... fake bus driver anyone remember that ?

But I need sleep and I might miss nightfall so I'd rather move my vote and I don't trust Athene either so ##unvote Ksen##

and##vote Athene##

[oblivion]

Athene just seems emotionally flat or something. she was "there" after I dropped the bombshell about my role and didn't seem curious or concerned. and today she seems the same.

doesn't seem like a town reaction.

[Athene]

It would be a very bad idea to lynch the seer. I'm the high priest of Dagon and I can sense the blood of the deep ones in other players.

Ob has the blood of the deep ones in her veins, as does Mantis.

Guys, for future ref, ob thinks I'm scum in nearly every game I play with her. Ksen pointed that out that when we play together there is normally a bit of bicker early on in the game between us.

[Athene]

Athene just seems emotionally flat or something. she was "there" after I dropped the bombshell about my role and didn't seem curious or concerned. and today she seems the same.

doesn't seem like a town reaction.

Ooops, I done dropped a seer tell.