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[Zigmen]

Should read:

"why wouldn't the knowledge of a mixed-alignment team"

[Morticia]

It's just a hunch. You've read my post about why I think scum are hiding on that supposed lizard team. But, then we have Charlou and her role of "blocker/protector" trying to diffuse my theory. If my theory had holes in it, i want to know what they are.

Charlou agreed with me that Feck would have outed to save his team. She said:

Feck would protect his team mates, Zigmen

How could he protect his team mates? Only by outing them. He didn't.

Then Charlou linked a mafiawiki article that basically said that this type of team might be a mix of town and scum. That's good to know.

But then, things stopped adding up.

Why would Charlou take Mort at her word? Why would she believe her? That's unexplained and highly suspect.

Then, it occured to me, what if Charlou is not a Town "blocker/protecter?" What if she's the Scum Roleblocker?

That would round out the scum team as Mort, DP, and Charlou.

That's the one instance that would explain everything: Why Charlou is trying to clear Mort and DP. Why Charlou's explanation of the lizard team is pure Wifom.

But Charlou seems to have made a critical mistake.

If it is her contention that she believes Mort and DP, why would the knowledge of a mixed-alignment team make her even more suspicious of that team's members?

As I thought about all of this, i thought it best to try to piece together Charlou's night actions from N1 on. Did she ever protect anyone? Or, did she only do blocks?

A scum roleblocker could have only blocked. A Town blocker/protector would have certainly protected Ani on at least one night.

But today, Charlou apologised to Ani for not protecting him. That could only be possible if Charlou did not protect Ani the night before, either. Protectors (that i have ever seen) have never been able to protect the same player on consecutive nights. So, Charlou did not protect our Seer on either of those nights, otherwise her apology to Ani was bullshit.

There's more, but I have already gone on too long.

I think Charlou might be the third scum, and I'm trying to assess her actions to help me either clear her or condemn her.

I could follow the logic on Charlou being scum but she would have to be the don to view human. Would she be both the don and a roleblocker?

[DennyB]

Sorry guys, I may not have time to get back to the thread today, (I wrecked my car last night to top everything off) but Zigmen’s logic seems fairly good.

Vote Morticia

Vote Zigmen

[Zigmen]

In a game this size with only 3 scum, I'd bet on it.

[Zigmen]

Above was a crosspost directed at Mort.

[Morticia]

As for Feck protecting us. I don't think he realized that he was going to be lynched until it was too late. He wasn't communicating with us at that time via wb and ignored/didn't see my suggestion to save himself by voting MZ. At this point, end game is what will reveal our identity as the game will be over tonight if we don't lynch a scum.

[Morticia]

In a game this size with only 3 scum, I'd bet on it.

Why would she be defending us then? As I have said if one us gets lynched tonight it's game over as scum especially scum don who has viewed human that would be the move to make. Kind of like the push from you and Denny.

Vote Zigmen

[Morticia]

My pic on the scum team is Zigmen, Denny and ?

[Zigmen]

In a game this size with only 3 scum, I'd bet on it.

Why would she be defending us then? As I have said if one us gets lynched tonight it's game over as scum especially scum don who has viewed human that would be the move to make. Kind of like the push from you and Denny.

Vote Zigmen

A revenge vote?

And, I was betting that Charlou is a Don/Roleblocker. That's why she'd protect you and DP.

[Morticia]

Actually, I'm going to
Unvote
and
Vote Denny
That won't split the vote as Charlou has already placed a vote on Denny

And no Zig, that wasn't a revenge vote.

[Zigmen]

I don't like the vote stacking going on.

Vote Zigmen

Scum has 3 votes. We need to get this right.

[Morticia]

In a game this size with only 3 scum, I'd bet on it.

Why would she be defending us then? As I have said if one us gets lynched tonight it's game over as scum especially scum don who has viewed human that would be the move to make. Kind of like the push from you and Denny.

Vote Zigmen

A revenge vote?

And, I was betting that Charlou is a Don/Roleblocker. That's why she'd protect you and DP.

If she were don/roleblocker and we were on the same team. She wouldn't have roleblocked two members of our team if she had the same allignement. Then there was her urging to save MZ. Why would she protect three town players all in basically the same post?

[Rob]

1. UT resistance member
2 Feck fifth column lizard
3 Mononoke
4 Dennyb
5 DontPanic
6 Charlou
7 Morticia
8 ScienceRob
9 MagicZig resistance member
10 oblivion resistance member
11 Normal resistance member
12 Animavore resistance scientist
13 Durro
14 Zigmen

Mono - Takes critisicsm quite harshly, seems to be overracting. Raises the scum potential IMO
Denny - Has been far to quiet, done very little to help Town. Very suspect
DP/Morticia - claim to be Town lizard team. Morticia's method makes me believe her. I don't think she is lieing and thus I clear DP by association.
Charlou - I think I remember ani saying he viewed her and I forget what was said. I think she might be town but I forget everything has has been said about her... going to have to tredge through all the days
Durro - Has been very silent this entire time. I think he has scum potential, but I don't know why I just suspect Denny more
Zigmen - As I have irriterated day and day, the most scummy of us all. He is going to be my vote time and time again, especially once MZ and Obl both turned town.

My current suspect list Scummy to non:

Zigmen
Mono
Denny
Durro
Charlou
DP/Morticia

Vote Zigmen

Going to go hunt for information in the threads about Charlou.

Interesting my top suspects are trying to get Zigmen mayor'd. Coincidence? I think not.

[mononoke]

I'm not buying the Char is scum don + blocker story Zigmen. It's too unlikely.

[Rob]

Zigmen - As I have reiterated day and day, the most scummy of us all. He is going to be my vote time and time again, especially once MZ and Obl both turned town.

Huge spelling error. I have no idea how I pulled that off, lol.