MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action (GAME)

[Uselesstwit]

if char's vote count is right it would mean that andrew outed with a iffy role and voted to give himself the lynch lead all in one post. that's weird for town, unheard of for scum.

[Feck]

Morning all ..Is Aza trying the Animavore playstation defence ?

and FFS you lot talked a lot last night ! (my night not game night ).

Oh about the flavour ..i'm a member of Cobra unit (that's bad guys in the MGS3 game ) and i'm town so adjust your expectations of scum/town flavour accordingly .

[Adenosine]

Here is the OP:

Metal Gear Solid 3 is set during the Cold War in 1964, where a CIA agent, codenamed "Naked Snake", is sent to the jungles of Tselinoyarsk, in the USSR. Aided over radio by Major Zero, Para-Medic, and his former mentor The Boss, his mission is to rescue a defecting Soviet scientist named Sokolov who is secretly developing an advanced nuclear-equipped tank called the "Shagohod". The mission goes smoothly until The Boss defects and provides her new benefactor, Colonel Volgin, with two Davy Crockett miniature nuclear shells. Sokolov is captured by Cobra Unit and Snake is heavily injured in combat by The Boss, allowing Volgin and his cohorts to escape with Sokolov. Volgin detonates one of the nuclear shells to cover up its theft, which is subsequently blamed on The Boss.

Having detected the U.S. aircraft which deployed Snake flying over Soviet soil, the Soviet Union declares the United States responsible for the nuclear attack, tipping both nations to the edge of a nuclear war. In a secret conference between U.S. President Lyndon Johnson and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a deal is hatched to prove the U.S.'s innocence and restore peace. The United States agrees to stop Volgin's renegade faction, destroy the stolen Shagohod and eliminate the American defector, The Boss.

One week after being rescued from the region, Snake has been redeployed into the Soviet jungle as part of "Operation: Snake Eater", to fulfill the United States' promises. During the mission, he will have the assistance of another American defector, who defected a few years earlier. Your mission is to eliminate 'Naked Snake' and the traitor who is playing both sides of the fence as well as any other threats to the Soviet Union's national security.

Man, I'm confused. 'Naked Snake' is the one who was betrayed by The Boss and Volgin, injured by Volgin (who then detonated a nuclear weapon which the USSR blamed on the US) and then sent back to destroy The Boss and Vogin and restore peace between the US and the USSR. But we have to kill 'Naked Snake' and "other threats to the Soviet Union's national security"?

Can someone explain this to me?

[amok]

Andrew claimed Volgin. He's the head of the GRU. GRU is Town, but is Andrew really Volgin? That's a pretty big claim.

His questions about "safe claims" on Day One seemed pretty sincere. I'll go find that part of the conversation.

[Adenosine]

From the PG:

No big deal. Though I'll be very clear this time that, once again, the protagonists will be the scum and the antagonists will make up the majority.

[Adenosine]

Okay, so it's a good claim.

[Uselesstwit]

or a safe claim, but combined with the vote against his own interests i'm leaning town.

[Adenosine]

Agreed. If it looks like Andrew is going to be the lynch I'm willing to switch to Zigmen to try to save him.

[amok]

andrewclunn wrote:
I'm of the school that the more information ton has the better. Specifically, I've already stated that this would limit the possible claims for scum later on, or is giving out fake role claims standard procedure here?

I'm of the school that the more information ton has the better. Specifically, I've already stated that this would limit the possible claims for scum later on, or is giving out fake role claims standard procedure here?

Is it rare for Scum to get fake claims with their roles, on most boards?

[Uselesstwit]

i hadn't heard of them until playing here, so i really can't say.

[amok]

Here is the OP:

Metal Gear Solid 3 is set during the Cold War in 1964, where a CIA agent, codenamed "Naked Snake", is sent to the jungles of Tselinoyarsk, in the USSR. Aided over radio by Major Zero, Para-Medic, and his former mentor The Boss, his mission is to rescue a defecting Soviet scientist named Sokolov who is secretly developing an advanced nuclear-equipped tank called the "Shagohod". The mission goes smoothly until The Boss defects and provides her new benefactor, Colonel Volgin, with two Davy Crockett miniature nuclear shells. Sokolov is captured by Cobra Unit and Snake is heavily injured in combat by The Boss, allowing Volgin and his cohorts to escape with Sokolov. Volgin detonates one of the nuclear shells to cover up its theft, which is subsequently blamed on The Boss.

Having detected the U.S. aircraft which deployed Snake flying over Soviet soil, the Soviet Union declares the United States responsible for the nuclear attack, tipping both nations to the edge of a nuclear war. In a secret conference between U.S. President Lyndon Johnson and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a deal is hatched to prove the U.S.'s innocence and restore peace. The United States agrees to stop Volgin's renegade faction, destroy the stolen Shagohod and eliminate the American defector, The Boss.

One week after being rescued from the region, Snake has been redeployed into the Soviet jungle as part of "Operation: Snake Eater", to fulfill the United States' promises. During the mission, he will have the assistance of another American defector, who defected a few years earlier. Your mission is to eliminate 'Naked Snake' and the traitor who is playing both sides of the fence as well as any other threats to the Soviet Union's national security.

Man, I'm confused. 'Naked Snake' is the one who was betrayed by The Boss and Volgin, injured by Volgin (who then detonated a nuclear weapon which the USSR blamed on the US) and then sent back to destroy The Boss and Vogin and restore peace between the US and the USSR. But we have to kill 'Naked Snake' and "other threats to the Soviet Union's national security"?

Can someone explain this to me?

That's was my whole point about the "traitor" PM yesterday. Until MZ said he saw the phrase about EVA being scum in the PM, it was driving me crazy, because EVA is an American double-agent who turns out in the end to be a triple-agent (working for the Chinese faction of the Philosophers, which is the video game's version of the Illuminati). And don't even get me started about The Boss, who is a defector with the GRU until the bitter end, when it's revealed she's a deep-cover double agent for the Americans. And there are more.

I got caught up in it, until MZ clarified what he saw.

[amok]

But what I'm thinking now is that it would be a very dodgy false claim for Scum to make, because it's almost a given someone on Town would REALLY have that role.

[Feck]

From the PG:

No big deal. Though I'll be very clear this time that, once again, the protagonists will be the scum and the antagonists will make up the majority.

from Wiki The protagonist of Snake Eater, Naked Snake known as Big Boss in subsequent games , is a former U.S. Special Forces (Green Beret) and CIA operative. During the mission, Major Zero , a former member of the British Special Air Service, aids Snake by providing mission advice and battle tactics. Para-Medic and Sigint provide specialist advice on flora and fauna, and weapons and equipment, respectively.

The two primary antagonists of the game are Colonel Volgin (v.b. Kenji Utsumi and Neil Ross), an electricity-controlling GRU colonel and member of the extreme Brezhnev faction, who are attempting to overthrow Nikita Khrushchev to seize power for Leonid Brezhnev and Alexei Kosygin,[22] and The Boss (v.b. Kikuko Inoue and Lori Alan), former mentor to Naked Snake.[18] Cobra Unit, a Special Forces unit led by The Boss, is composed of The End, a venerable expert sniper credited as the "father of modern sniping";[23] The Fear, who has supernatural flexibility and agility; The Fury, a disfigured former cosmonaut armed with a flamethrower and a jetpack;[18] The Pain, who can control hornets to both defend himself and attack his enemies;[18] and The Sorrow, the spirit of a deceased medium.[24]

Other characters include Sokolov (v.b. Naoki Tatsuta and Brian Cummings), a rocket scientist whom Snake must rescue; EVA (v.b. Misa Watanabe and Suzetta Miñet), Snake's love interest and American defector and KGB agent sent to assist him, and a young Ocelot (v.b. Takumi Yamazaki and Joshua Keaton), commander of the elite Ocelot Unit within Volgin's GRU

[amok]

What are the voting options for saving andrewclunn? Back in a sec.

[Uselesstwit]

i think zigmen would be the easiest to flip to but i'm having doubts about that one, not the least of which is that andrew has followed irre onto 2 separate bw today.