Stargate SG1 - game thread

[amok]

Yep, my late day's play looks like shitty scummy looking play even to me. However I am not scum.

I had thought that I had caught Gonzo red-handed with this post:

Gonzo wrote:
I do not like the bilirubin wagon at all. I don't see much logic in the votes put to him. We played together at TR and this reminds me of his town game. I haven't seen him as scum, yet, so I don't know his range as a player, but in this game he seems similar to how he played in Game of Thrones.

On that note, vote diva. The theatrical flailing isn't fooling me. It comes off very much like an act. Why self-vote and then unvote again?

Because I was pretty sure that I did not see Bilirubin say that he was Jasona at TR. I went through Bili's posts and no, he did not say that. So how would he have known who Bili was? I leaped to the conclusion that somebody would have told him.

But I did find this on reread of d2's thread:

Zigmen wrote:

Cuz I'm watching behavior I can't understand.

You seem to be on a wild goose chase of FoSes, some better than others. You seem to be voting for the players who have been voted for by the players you think are Scummy.

And, I believe that Town Jasona tends to either latch onto one player until they are satisfied, or plays teamwork and triangulates with others to make assessments.

xpost

What I'm seeing is a rogue who is making very odd decisions.

So yes, Gonzo would have known who Bili was from that post by Zigmen. I am still suss of Gonzo, just not for that reason and I am thinking I that I might be trolleytracking.

Zigmen, do you still think that you are seeing a "rogue who is making very odd decisions" or Bili as scum? The rogue fits my read on him, however the Bili as scum does not. I associate a more carefulness in his scumplay. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Also, do the nightkills confuse anybody else? Mantis killed DP with a zap gun, which fits a town/vig as far as flavour, but she was killed by a zap gun.

It leaves me with these 2 possibilities:

1. We have not seen a scumkill yet.
2. Scumkills are indistinguishable from town/vig kills.

Does anybody else have any other ideas?

Zigmen, how did you know Bilirubin is Jasona on TR?

[Feck]

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... na#p885920

[irretating]

Feck we need to triangulate! Sounds rude! What do you make of zig? Or amok?

I'm having trouble buying aza's explanations for his votes. I'm thinking he might be Indy. Or scum. If zig is town I think he might be right about bili, but bili's vote on Higgs made sense to me. Bussing her? He's also cosying up to athene who I'm not getting warm fuzzies off of. He didn't mention me IIRC which I find weird, too.

Speaking of fuzzies, fuzzy! I can be the new gib! Talk to me!

Anyone who thinks I'm town, talk to me! I think scum are mostly laying low *cough* gonzo *cough* so it's a hard game.

And feck, mantis was shot twice, right? SK you think? Aza, work WITH town not against us pls!

[irretating]

Amok the bili/Jason thing is a rouge pickled fish! Really!

I hope you're town, we could work together!

[Feck]

I'm pretty suspect of both Zigmen and amok I think Amok said some thing about Guapo's law that Pinged I thought Ksen had picked it up too but then he dropped it .

Not sure if the number of shots is evidence of 2 people shooting Mantis or just flavour ...

[Zigmen]

Zigmen, how did you know Bilirubin is Jasona on TR?

It came up in a previous game.

[Bilirubin]

The fact that DP was Vanilla Town throws my theory about who's Scum for a loop. He was Number 2 on my Scum list. I have to rethink everything.

Didn't know anything about your list earlier--did you publish it? But here we are on day three, and you are confused again.

What are your current thoughts regarding town vs. scum?

[Bilirubin]

Zigmen, how did you know Bilirubin is Jasona on TR?

It came up in a previous game.

"Came up"? You people wouldn't leave it alone! The guess who Bilirubin is game because a total distraction from the game itself.

[irretating]

Oh yes I recall. Sounds like a weird thing to be able to google. Does it even work?

It's 2am and I'm stupid phoning tapatalking. Damn uppers! Explains all the !!! btw

[Bilirubin]

Oh hai Athene! Tell me about your townish read on Zigman. Also, do you think diva's meltdown yesterday was faked? If she is scum, then I'm betting gonzo is also.

Hi jason. Re. zig, he's actively scum hunting, I'm agreeing with some of his reads and also the vibe I'm getting from his posts.

If diva is on my scummy pile then it stands to reason that I'm sceptical of the authenticity of her meltdown.

I'm not sure I would characterize what he is doing as actively scum hunting. More like target fixation that he can pass off as scum hunting. Have not seen any inspectoring.

Lets leave zigman (who you see as town) and diva (who I see as town) off for a second. Could we agree to consolidate around gonzo, ksen, or higgs?

[irretating]

Bili what do you make of Aza? If you're town I could trust your reads but as scum I know you'd be just grabbing townie logic inconsistencies and zoning in on them. You think there's a SK? Who is it?

[Bilirubin]

Bili what do you make of Aza? If you're town I could trust your reads but as scum I know you'd be just grabbing townie logic inconsistencies and zoning in on them. You think there's a SK? Who is it?

This is a seriously odd post irre. I'll answer, but my first response is to go "wat"

Aza isn't saying anything that I think is unusual or suspicion generating.

If I am town I will be picking up on the same townie logic inconsistencies as I would as scum, but I'd also be a little more on the scummy errors as well (but I try to highlight the most egregious of those as scum too).

A SK? We've only had one NK each night. Why would you start speculating about something we've seen no evidence for?

[Bilirubin]

Amok has risen to "unsure, leaning scum" for me.

[amok]

The fact that DP was Vanilla Town throws my theory about who's Scum for a loop. He was Number 2 on my Scum list. I have to rethink everything.

Didn't know anything about your list earlier--did you publish it? But here we are on day three, and you are confused again.

What are your current thoughts regarding town vs. scum?

I can tell you what my thoughts were last night, because I wrote them down. Because DP turned out to be Town, as well as learning that players knew who you were from a previous game, makes me have to rethink.

I wrote (to myself):

I've learned a new concept in Mafia play this game. The "hedging" thing. Which ironically was brought up by my chief suspect at this point, Bilirubin. He is Number 1, DP is Number 2 (also for the hedging thing), and Gonzo is Number 3.

Bilirubin's post at 11:52 p.m., re: Matt: "If you do get lynched and turn up a town special, I'm not going to give a shit. Fix your play." Wow. Talk about hedging.

DP's post at 12:22 a.m.: "Shizzle, seems too scummy to be scum, but then again could be a double bluff, or just bad play." Then votes Shizzle. Hedging.

Gonzo's post at 2:29 p.m.: "I do not like the bilirubin wagon at all. I don't see much logic in the votes put to him. We played together at TR and this reminds me of his town game. I haven't seen him as scum, yet, so I don't know his range as a player, but in this game he seems similar to how he played in Game of Thrones." The logic on the votes against Bilirubin is as sound as possible on Day 2 (whether it turns out to be correct or not). Also Diva's point about him knowing who he is on the other site makes me think they're talking on a Scumboard.

[Zigmen]

Zigmen, how did you know Bilirubin is Jasona on TR?

It came up in a previous game.

From here:

Re: Starfleet Day 1

Postby Bilirubin » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:24 am

Adenosine wrote:Shit, it's damian.



Jesus Christ. I'm jasona. OK? Now you know who I am, will fall back onto some way outdated meta on me, and I am still at a disadvantage because I don't know most of you.