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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:27 pm

UT, ksen has said he's just skimming.

What does TR have to do with this game?

I don't have you leaning town ... therefore don't trust you.
Uselesstwit wrote:this might be a stupid wifom inducing question, but has Ob ever done the whole doc + insane doc thing? Like I said it's wifom inducing, but town could really be f**king ourselves if she did. If and it's a big honking if, they're both telling the truth we'd be setting ourselves up to be on day 4 before we resume hunting for scum. Just want thoughts on it.
It crossed my mind. Also Feck's comments regarding the wording of the OP had me thinking too ... Also, anyone else notice the spelling in the thread title? Maybe that last is going to far with the wifom, though.

Are you trying to protect DP, UT?
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:28 pm

I really, really wish someone had asked aza for a full out before dp had counterclaimed.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:30 pm

Azathoth wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:this might be a stupid wifom inducing question, but has Ob ever done the whole doc + insane doc thing? Like I said it's wifom inducing, but town could really be f**king ourselves if she did. If and it's a big honking if, they're both telling the truth we'd be setting ourselves up to be on day 4 before we resume hunting for scum. Just want thoughts on it.
If that is the case you have all the scum you need coming out of the woodwork to push my BW today. 2 docs fighting is too good for them to resist. This game is too small for two docs IMO though
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:33 pm

charlou wrote:UT, ksen has said he's just skimming.

What does TR have to do with this game?

I don't have you leaning town ... therefore don't trust you.
Uselesstwit wrote:this might be a stupid wifom inducing question, but has Ob ever done the whole doc + insane doc thing? Like I said it's wifom inducing, but town could really be f**king ourselves if she did. If and it's a big honking if, they're both telling the truth we'd be setting ourselves up to be on day 4 before we resume hunting for scum. Just want thoughts on it.
It crossed my mind. Also Feck's comments regarding the wording of the OP had me thinking too ... Also, anyone else notice the spelling in the thread title? Maybe that last is going to far with the wifom, though.

Are you trying to protect DP, UT?
yeah, that's it char. I'm a scum buddy with dp and we cooked up this idea where he fakes a counterclaim, then I do this whole stupid confused town act so that town will bag two scum if aza flips as the doc. Seriously if dp is fake claiming, scum are running away from having anything to do with him.

Could you answer a question? Why did you think that putting this off for a day was a good idea and then final vote for aza? You both tried to prolong the wifom with the delay and then tried to cut off all debate by moving a final vote forward.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:43 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
Could you answer a question? Why did you think that putting this off for a day was a good idea and then final vote for aza? You both tried to prolong the wifom with the delay and then tried to cut off all debate by moving a final vote forward.
I have no problem answering your question.

I asked MZ who he'd vote for if we put the Az/DP decision off for a day. (I actually expected him to say Gonzo, and he did. Nothing surprising or suspicious in that for me.) I actually believe Az's claim, not DP's ... you may glean that from my posts today if you care to look again. I agree with MZ that eliminating one or the other of Az and DP will help sort this out. Az also agrees.

You, on the other hand, are creating wifom in defence of DP.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:46 pm

charlou wrote:Maybe that last is going to far with the wifom, though.
gah, hate it when I do that.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Feck » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:46 pm

It still worries me that Aza didn't claim Seer , if he is lying scum .The more I think about it the more I think this is all down to some Evil twist in the game design .
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:51 pm

No, i'm trying to make sure that town isn't making a huge mistake, something that your final vote completely counteracts. What would you do if the seer came forward now and said that aza was innocent? Rely on the rest of town to save our doc for you? That final vote just doesn't fit with the uncertainty of the day.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:57 pm

It does from my point of view.

If you think town should save our doc, stop having a go at me and make your case for it.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:58 pm

Feck wrote:It still worries me that Aza didn't claim Seer , if he is lying scum .The more I think about it the more I think this is all down to some Evil twist in the game design .
Yeah me to, neither option really makes sense to me.

If aza is scum i'd expect him either to draw the seer or to claim something we're less likely to have than a doc. And his behavior today is exactly what i'd expect someone with a fake counterclaim coming at him.
If dp is scum, i'd not expect the fake role claim as scum have a nk to work with instead of sacrificing someone and giving town info.

This early in the game the dp thing really bothers me, last game was won by scum specifically because no scum was lynched and that denied town the ability to make connections. So for scum to cough up one of it's own like dp would have just done is handing town info at the cost of a day 2 mislynch. and a day 2 mislynch is almost always a certainty anyway, it just doesn't make sense.

That said I think we have to lynch one of them or we're going to have this wifom floating on for another day and I don't think town can afford it.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:00 pm

charlou wrote:It does from my point of view.

If you think town should save our doc, stop having a go at me and make your case for it.
If i knew which one was the doc I would, but I don't, and I can't think that prolonging this makes sense. It's why my vote is on aza. I just don't like my vote on aza and would like a third option.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:00 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:That said I think we have to lynch one of them or we're going to have this wifom floating on for another day and I don't think town can afford it.
Exactly why I went along with MZ and voted Az.
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:02 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
charlou wrote:It does from my point of view.

If you think town should save our doc, stop having a go at me and make your case for it.
If i knew which one was the doc I would, but I don't, and I can't think that prolonging this makes sense. It's why my vote is on aza. I just don't like my vote on aza and would like a third option.
Which is why I asked MZ who he'd vote if we put the Az/DP thing on hold for a day.


Why have you been having a go at me for having reservations you now claim to be having?
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:04 pm

charlou wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:That said I think we have to lynch one of them or we're going to have this wifom floating on for another day and I don't think town can afford it.
Exactly why I went along with MZ and voted Az.
yes but why final vote when you were going to be around is what bugs me the most. If enough people went along with you the day would have ended and we might have missed some posts. I can understand the vote for aza, it's probably exactly the same reasons i'm voting for him, but why final vote in a game that is already noticeably low on posts?
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Re: Tarot III Mafiia: Day 2 - That Which Is

Post by MattShizzle » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:06 pm

How exactly is 10 pages in one day "low on posts?" I had to skim this morning because I don't have anywhere close to the attention span required to read like 6 pages at a time.

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