I see what you are saying, MZ. But my point is that say one scum is outed...the game lasts 6 days. You can have as many as 6 votes against you (although it is doubtful that there would be that many, unless we outed a scum early in the game).Magicziggy wrote:If they want to out themselves and reveal themselves as dead scum that would be counter productive imo. They will surely then vote for town players or look to bus a team mate. This would be risky.divagreen wrote:It doesn't matter if we want them dead or not, they can still play. Why isn't anybody factoring revenge voting?Magicziggy wrote:There's no real answer to that.
I've suggested the only real way to lynch someone is by over killing them. Maybe 7 votes would be enough to ensure they are dead. Maybe more. If we WANT someone dead, then there should be 7 or 8 people willing to pile on. If it's Day 1 faffing around in the dark, we can opt not to vote, OR we can spread the vote, so that we hit some scum and get them jumpy, maybe wasting some protective measures on themselves.![]()
This game is different in that even if you think someone is scum, even if you out a scum, even if everyone KNOWS they are scum, you still have to face them in the morning. And they can vote against you.
No I think logically, dead/dying scum would still lie low and claim town because they still have a job to do to steer the vote away from team mates.
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I hope that's not a carry over from another game. Seriously, what have I done to warrant suspicion? It'd be awfully convenient for scum to target me this game, using the last one as a kind of "Well, look how she fooled us there" excuse.Magicziggy wrote:Interesting mayor bandwagon forming on Charlou. Bolero is the player I'm most suspicious of, but I haven't yet read pages 3-10 so I'm still a bit in the dark about the Aza thing.
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Once a scum outs, they are useless in the game.
We watch where they vote, but we won;t listen to a thing they say.
They might want to bus a team mate or vote a town.
It's all wifom and should be ignored.
There's no value in scum outing imo.
We watch where they vote, but we won;t listen to a thing they say.
They might want to bus a team mate or vote a town.
It's all wifom and should be ignored.
There's no value in scum outing imo.
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No my suspicion is based purely on the merits of your play to date.Bolero wrote:I hope that's not a carry over from another game. Seriously, what have I done to warrant suspicion? It'd be awfully convenient for scum to target me this game, using the last one as a kind of "Well, look how she fooled us there" excuse.Magicziggy wrote:Interesting mayor bandwagon forming on Charlou. Bolero is the player I'm most suspicious of, but I haven't yet read pages 3-10 so I'm still a bit in the dark about the Aza thing.
Like Oblivion on me, I may be wrong.
It happens. It's just an overall feeling. Not specific to a particular post.
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Okay, i'm back. Feck still seems a bit flaily to me, especially in contrast to his game over at tr. aza is also a big worry, lately his scum game has been quiet and his town game forceful, this isn't the forceful game. Gonzo is actually playing now so i'm getting less concerned about him.
As for the mechanics of this game, i'm wondering if it would be in towns interest to just pile the votes up on one person. Since ten is the most votes you can possibly get going over that every day would still only be one dead town person. The problem with that is it won't allow us to preasure people with points, but if we don't have a clear scum target it would be best to leave as many town at zero as poss.
As for the mechanics of this game, i'm wondering if it would be in towns interest to just pile the votes up on one person. Since ten is the most votes you can possibly get going over that every day would still only be one dead town person. The problem with that is it won't allow us to preasure people with points, but if we don't have a clear scum target it would be best to leave as many town at zero as poss.
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lol get used to it bolero, every single time i've pulled off a really excellent scum victory i've been fos'd to hell and back the next game. That said, you are pinging a bit but not as much as others I noted above.Bolero wrote:I hope that's not a carry over from another game. Seriously, what have I done to warrant suspicion? It'd be awfully convenient for scum to target me this game, using the last one as a kind of "Well, look how she fooled us there" excuse.Magicziggy wrote:Interesting mayor bandwagon forming on Charlou. Bolero is the player I'm most suspicious of, but I haven't yet read pages 3-10 so I'm still a bit in the dark about the Aza thing.
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Several people, actually, but the reasons are mostly arbitrary.charlou wrote:Who else are you suspicious of ... and why?Gonzo wrote:Aza for encouraging a mass claim, but I'm not exclusively suspicious of him.oblivion wrote:at this point, who would you vote for, and why?Gonzo wrote:Also, is there a reason to hold off voting like this? We don't want to hit the day's end without having pressured anyone, do we?
Mantis has seemed really hesistant and concerned with landing the vote rather than who to actually vote for. This seems to be a diversion to me and could be used to drop a vote before the END DAY as a last minute thing.
Athene seems to be laying low. Sort of shadowy, to me. Posting but nothing of prominance, but her reasoning is still agreeable. Nothing that stands out one way or the other. I would like to see more from her.
ut I want to see more from. He hasn't added much of substance. He could possibley be skating by.
Oblivion I have a lot of trouble getting a read on. I think she is experienced enough to veil her motivations as pro-town.
divagreen us all over the place but apparently rthat is supposed to be her style or something?
Fuzzy's being concerned mostly with having himself voted mayor is really unhelpful - no matter his alignment.
Gib seems less aggressive in this game, I'd expect him to challenge people more, but I've only really played with him once.
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Except in your last game, you never had the chance.Uselesstwit wrote:lol get used to it bolero, every single time i've pulled off a really excellent scum victory i've been fos'd to hell and back the next game. That said, you are pinging a bit but not as much as others I noted above.Bolero wrote:I hope that's not a carry over from another game. Seriously, what have I done to warrant suspicion? It'd be awfully convenient for scum to target me this game, using the last one as a kind of "Well, look how she fooled us there" excuse.Magicziggy wrote:Interesting mayor bandwagon forming on Charlou. Bolero is the player I'm most suspicious of, but I haven't yet read pages 3-10 so I'm still a bit in the dark about the Aza thing.

Sorry, I still find that funny.

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Although so far I think Charlou is town, my observation in recent games is that she's been kind overboard on the town paranoia and suffered from a lack of occam's razor at times.
I may revote for her, but I want to think on it a bit.
my eyes are maxed out on computer monitor time. I'll check back in a few hours.
Although so far I think Charlou is town, my observation in recent games is that she's been kind overboard on the town paranoia and suffered from a lack of occam's razor at times.
I may revote for her, but I want to think on it a bit.
my eyes are maxed out on computer monitor time. I'll check back in a few hours.
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I am not all over the place Gonzo. I just don't have a clear read on anybody.Gonzo wrote:Several people, actually, but the reasons are mostly arbitrary.charlou wrote:Who else are you suspicious of ... and why?Gonzo wrote:Aza for encouraging a mass claim, but I'm not exclusively suspicious of him.oblivion wrote:at this point, who would you vote for, and why?Gonzo wrote:Also, is there a reason to hold off voting like this? We don't want to hit the day's end without having pressured anyone, do we?
Mantis has seemed really hesistant and concerned with landing the vote rather than who to actually vote for. This seems to be a diversion to me and could be used to drop a vote before the END DAY as a last minute thing.
Athene seems to be laying low. Sort of shadowy, to me. Posting but nothing of prominance, but her reasoning is still agreeable. Nothing that stands out one way or the other. I would like to see more from her.
ut I want to see more from. He hasn't added much of substance. He could possibley be skating by.
Oblivion I have a lot of trouble getting a read on. I think she is experienced enough to veil her motivations as pro-town.
divagreen us all over the place but apparently rthat is supposed to be her style or something?
Fuzzy's being concerned mostly with having himself voted mayor is really unhelpful - no matter his alignment.
Gib seems less aggressive in this game, I'd expect him to challenge people more, but I've only really played with him once.
I am suss on a couple of other people, though. I am just not sure.
Honestly the only one pinging for me is Fuzzy, who keeps trying to vote for himself as mayor. Who does that.
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is there a maximum number of votes allowed on one player?Uselesstwit wrote:Okay, i'm back. Feck still seems a bit flaily to me, especially in contrast to his game over at tr. aza is also a big worry, lately his scum game has been quiet and his town game forceful, this isn't the forceful game. Gonzo is actually playing now so i'm getting less concerned about him.
As for the mechanics of this game, i'm wondering if it would be in towns interest to just pile the votes up on one person. Since ten is the most votes you can possibly get going over that every day would still only be one dead town person. The problem with that is it won't allow us to preasure people with points, but if we don't have a clear scum target it would be best to leave as many town at zero as poss.
and what would be the advantage to killing one player who might be town as opposed to not voting at all?
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yeah zigmen said somewhere that 10 was the maximum limit. As for not voting at all, i'm just paranoid there might be a no vote penalty like they have over at RS some games.
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Why would you think this?Uselesstwit wrote:yeah zigmen said somewhere that 10 was the maximum limit. As for not voting at all, i'm just paranoid there might be a no vote penalty like they have over at RS some games.
They would have put something in the OP, surely.
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because I did think of it and it would truly truly suck if we lost because of not voting. but you and ob are probably right.
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This is another very good point.divagreen wrote:It doesn't matter if we want them dead or not, they can still play. Why isn't anybody factoring revenge voting?Magicziggy wrote:There's no real answer to that.
I've suggested the only real way to lynch someone is by over killing them. Maybe 7 votes would be enough to ensure they are dead. Maybe more. If we WANT someone dead, then there should be 7 or 8 people willing to pile on. If it's Day 1 faffing around in the dark, we can opt not to vote, OR we can spread the vote, so that we hit some scum and get them jumpy, maybe wasting some protective measures on themselves.![]()
This game is different in that even if you think someone is scum, even if you out a scum, even if everyone KNOWS they are scum, you still have to face them in the morning. And they can vote against you.
Man this game is so complex and absorbing.
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