Boy Band Mafia

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^^ <kills and other actions as they are revealed>

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unvote for now. playing these cards very close to my vest.

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meh. didn't meant to bold/black the whole thing.

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What it shows is this: Twinkie was your top suspect after Budski on day 1. Twinkie was your top suspect at the start of day 2. And you're still trying to think of ways Twinkie could be scum on day 3.

For Chrissake. It this so hard for you to get?
At the start of today I was going through possibilities. Thinking aloud, so to speak. I wasn't trying to make Twink a suspect. I was just trying to recap on the night. The whole confusion came in because I forgot the vig was dead.

Given that, why Feck? Why not either Twinkie or me? I've been seer before, and in every game I play, I ask myself on day 1 who I would view if I were seer, who I would protect if I were doc, who I would kill if I were vig, and who I would kill if I were scum. Then I look at day 2 and see if I can figure out whose logic is involved in the kills. I'm not getting your logic.

Why not Feck? No one stuck out severely on day one. I was hovering between a few people.

And I don't understand why you would forget or not read such an important post as the night's results, given that you are the seer and that info could be critical to your view decision.

No. I nearly forgot to post my view request. Not read it. I was working on my brothers laptop and saw the time and thought Oh shit! I got a reply after 2 minutes.

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My band Rocks with 3 exclamation marks. I'm not even sure this is allowed, it seems a bit underhanded, although I do remember in earlier PMs I was told we were allowed to paraphrase it. Can I ask why you want to know (again)?

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Ok.

Well, I've done what I can to give Tinkie some posts to weigh up. I'll have to leave you to her.

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My band Rocks with 3 exclamation marks. I'm not even sure this is allowed, it seems a bit underhanded, although I do remember in earlier PMs I was told we were allowed to paraphrase it. Can I ask why you want to know (again)?

vote DennyB

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If DennyB isn't scum, then the remaining scum are probably one or both of Ani and Feral P.

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I just realised it's not against the rules to do this.

Outgoing mail above. You can see where I had a change of plan. This is where I changed from Twink to Feck.

Incoming mail A few minutes to 4 Zigmen tells me I'll know about Mantis's verdict at daybreak then a few minutes after to tell me she was town.

I'm through with this silliness.

Vote Oblivion.

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This isn't going to make me popular.

7 twinkie - doctor
2 Oblivion - voted Budski
10 MZ - voted Budski
8 Ani - seer
Which means that these are scum:
5 Denny
6 feral p
Wait, WTF?! I'm not scum!

Okay. Time to consider options.
1. There's only one scum left and it's Denny. This wouldn't balance well and would be different to the rest of the games.
Disregarding this option as unlikely.
2. Oblivion mentioned that he didn't trust Ani's seer claim. I'd be interested to know why. We've had a seer in all the games before and there's been no counter-claim. I'm thinking it would be a very high risk scum strategy. Prohibitively so, given Ani wasn't even much of a suspect before.
Disregarding this option as unlikely, until Oblivion explains herself.
3. Someone who voted for Budski did so a) as a strategy, b) as an (almost) accident.
I pick this option (for now). See later in the post for detail.
4. For the rest of you, it's easier to assume it's just me and Denny as scum.

Detail on option 3:
Day 1:
Oblivion voted for Budski first.
Ani voted next, then unvoted.
Twinkie votes for me.
I vote Twinkie.
MZ votes for Ed, Mantis votes for Ed,
Ani votes for Twinkie,
MZ changes his vote to Budski.

OK. Either a) Oblivion is scum, not MZ b) vice versa or c) they both are.
a) Makes sense. Oblivion didn't think Budski would get another vote over Twinkie, he doesn't change his vote so he can claim he always suspected him, but at the last minute MZ swayed the vote. Ob DID have time to post, but if he went back on his vote then when Bud DID get lynched, Ob would be the prime suspect. This way they gain more from it.
b) Makes less sense. It would have had to be arranged and if that's true it would be better to get both scum on the trusted list. Which would point to the below option.
c) It would have to be arranged before hand. Possible but unlikely. But possible.

Either way, Oblivion is implicated.
Ani said he hadn't read Oblivion or MZ. One of them could be don anyway.

So if Oblivion is scum, why is he going for Ani and not an easier target? I mean, one more wrong lynch and a night kill and they've won. Well, Twinkie's protection could stop the nk. But attacking Ani just makes Twinkie's protection more unpredictable, right? Twinkie wouldn't protect me or Denny, scum could just nk the one who isn't lynched. Unless one of us (Denny) is scum. Cast doubt on Ani and Twinkie is much less likely to protect him, leaving him open. Worth it, given Ob's relative impunity. Add to that that it will take attention off of Denny (and Ob hasn't mentioned him in a while) and it seems worth it.

Bear in mind the inconsistencies I've already pointed out in Ob's posting.
We can't wait on Ani's seering. We're depending on our lynch votes and Twinkie's protection. The second one is mostly luck. The first is down to you. I don't know whether I've put forward a convincing argument, or even if it's right.

Vote Denny. He's a more credible lynch candidate that Ob to the rest of you. We need to get this right.

I guess I'll be lynched by nightfall, but by then you'll know I wasn't lying about this.
Good luck, guys. Damn, I'd make a good conspiracy theorist.

Don't ever be afraid to go after one of the game's big guns just because they are a big gun.

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I stand by my post. You're a clever player and voting for scum agian only redoubles your trust, possibly even enough to persuade people BEFORE Denny turns out to be scum, that you're not and I am (because I accused you). I'd encourage people to at least wait until Denny is lynched, that will give us more room to maneuvre(sp?) before lynching someone else.

Why do you keep accusing Ani? Do you think there is no seer in the game? Else why do you think Ani would risk claiming to be seer? And why has the real seer not come forward?

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I just realised it's not against the rules to do this.

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Outgoing mail above. You can see where I had a change of plan. This is where I changed from Twink to Feck.

Capture 6.JPG

Incoming mail A few minutes to 4 Zigmen tells me I'll know about Mantis's verdict at daybreak then a few minutes after to tell me she was town.

I'm through with this silliness.

Vote Oblivion.

Ani, I'm backing off you unless Twinkie says otherwise. You need to read something in this thread besides be conversation between us.

DennyB is scum. Vote for him.

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I just realised it's not against the rules to do this.

444.JPG

Outgoing mail above. You can see where I had a change of plan. This is where I changed from Twink to Feck.

Capture 6.JPG

Incoming mail A few minutes to 4 Zigmen tells me I'll know about Mantis's verdict at daybreak then a few minutes after to tell me she was town.

I'm through with this silliness.

Vote Oblivion.

Ani, I'm backing off you unless Twinkie says otherwise. You need to read something in this thread besides be conversation between us.

DennyB is scum. Vote for him.

No. I'm sticking with you.

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I stand by my post. You're a clever player and voting for scum agian only redoubles your trust, possibly even enough to persuade people BEFORE Denny turns out to be scum, that you're not and I am (because I accused you). I'd encourage people to at least wait until Denny is lynched, that will give us more room to maneuvre(sp?) before lynching someone else.

No, your post is good, and obviously I think you're right about DennyB and you know exactly why.

Why do you keep accusing Ani? Do you think there is no seer in the game? Else why do you think Ani would risk claiming to be seer? And why has the real seer not come forward?

His view choices blew me away. If I were scum fake-outing as the seer, I would have picked those views as the ones to claim I had made. So I gave him some shit to see how he handled it. I'm still not 100% convinced of his claim, which is why I want to hear from Twinkie.

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I just realised it's not against the rules to do this.

444.JPG

Outgoing mail above. You can see where I had a change of plan. This is where I changed from Twink to Feck.

Capture 6.JPG

Incoming mail A few minutes to 4 Zigmen tells me I'll know about Mantis's verdict at daybreak then a few minutes after to tell me she was town.

I'm through with this silliness.

Vote Oblivion.

Ani, I'm backing off you unless Twinkie says otherwise. You need to read something in this thread besides be conversation between us.

DennyB is scum. Vote for him.

No. I'm sticking with you.

Cool. I'll shoop a dunce's cap for your avatar when the game is over.