Tarot Mafia: Days 1 - 7 archive

[charlou]

Higgs seems oddly cranky about the kind of questioning that is always quite normal for this game.

mononoke still doesn't seem to have read everything, and Ani likewise.

Is sifaka doing her familiar silent but deadly thing?

UT hasn't contributed much either.

Look i've read the damn thread multiple times. I still don't know what Zigmen originally saw that was suspicious about gallstone. At first I thought it was the 'team' reference, but that seems to have come much later.

mononoke, the post where Zigmen responds to all the requests for him to explain why he thought Gallstones was scummy is here: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 18#p588918

He went on to press Gallstones for information about her PM message. Gallstones cleared herself by her correct response to Zigmen's questions.

I really think if you'd read the thread properly from the start you would have been able to follow this. It's pretty important to know what's going on, wouldn't you say?

[Feck]

ANd do you think gallstones is 100% cleared and why?

Not totally as my previous post it is possible for both of them to be scum and have assumed that Oblivion always sends out the same line in the role PM .

[mononoke]

If Zigmen spotted a 'tell' we might find out afterwards

this is what he said

Vote Normal

Vote Gallstones

You pinged my radar already. After the game, i'll tell you what your tell is.

I wanted to know what tell was an i asked for it and so did quite a number of people. It seems really silly to randomly accuse people with any reason. Then the 'team' reference came up and I thought that was the tell. I sincerely thought so. that's why I've been asking question about it.

I don't play the naive card. you can read the rest of my posts here and none of them were naive type posts. I was honestly confused about that.

[Uselesstwit]

I think that gallstones is probably cleared, but ani is right, oblivion does use eliminated in the Pm's i've gotten from her in other games. Zigmen is clever enough to bluff that so he's less cleared.

vote mono

He's the best candidate so far.

And as far as not participating, this thread had a page and a half on it when I went to bed. I'm not a huge poster when I'm asleep.

[Zigmen]

Vote Mononoke

do i get to hear why?

Sure. There's a couple of things.

First: the "I don't see where somebody said something" approach is a bit odd. We know you've read the thread. We know you've gone so far as to employ a text search on this thread. The thread can be read in under 10 minutes and provides every bit of information you say you can't find. Everyone else who has read the thread can find what you can't.

Second: We saw you play last game. Your deductions were solid, mostly. It's odd that you'd pull such a 180 in terms of logical analysis in such a short period.

There are other reasons as well, but those are the two major ones.

[charlou]

mononoke seems confused .. mononoke, did you look at the link in my previous post?

[mononoke]

Higgs seems oddly cranky about the kind of questioning that is always quite normal for this game.

mononoke still doesn't seem to have read everything, and Ani likewise.

Is sifaka doing her familiar silent but deadly thing?

UT hasn't contributed much either.

Look i've read the damn thread multiple times. I still don't know what Zigmen originally saw that was suspicious about gallstone. At first I thought it was the 'team' reference, but that seems to have come much later.

mononoke, the post where Zigmen responds to all the requests for him to explain why he thought Gallstones was scummy is here: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 18#p588918

He went on to press Gallstones for information about her PM message. Gallstones cleared herself by her correct response to Zigmen's questions.

I really think if you'd read the thread properly from the start you would have been able to follow this. It's pretty important to know what's going on, wouldn't you say?

that was in response to galls initial reaction. I got all that bit. My problem with with the initial 'tell' claim.

[Zigmen]

If Zigmen spotted a 'tell' we might find out afterwards

this is what he said

Vote Normal

Vote Gallstones

You pinged my radar already. After the game, i'll tell you what your tell is.

I wanted to know what tell was an i asked for it and so did quite a number of people. It seems really silly to randomly accuse people with any reason. Then the 'team' reference came up and I thought that was the tell. I sincerely thought so. that's why I've been asking question about it.

I don't play the naive card. you can read the rest of my posts here and none of them were naive type posts. I was honestly confused about that.

Okay. I'll bite. Here's the post you seem to not be able to find:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 18#p588918

[charlou]

mononoke, do you know what 'tell' means?

I don't like sifaka's silence .. if she doesn't post in the next couple of hours, I'll probably be voting for her.

[Zigmen]

mononoke, do you know what 'tell' means?

I don't like sifaka's silence .. if she doesn't post in the next couple of hours, I'll probably be voting for her.

Nomally I'd agree, except she just had a game break down at Ratskep (which sucked). Those games require a lot more GM time than these do, and trying to restart a broken game will be time consuming.

I know how much time it takes to GM a small game that doesn't break down. I can't imagine how she's managing that little disaster as well as try to keep up with this game.

I'm sure, she'll try, though. She may ask to be subbed out, too.

[mononoke]

Vote Mononoke

do i get to hear why?

Sure. There's a couple of things.

First: the "I don't see where somebody said something" approach is a bit odd. We know you've read the thread. We know you've gone so far as to employ a text search on this thread. The thread can be read in under 10 minutes and provides every bit of information you say you can't find. Everyone else who has read the thread can find what you can't.

Second: We saw you play last game. Your deductions were solid, mostly. It's odd that you'd pull such a 180 in terms of logical analysis in such a short period.

There are other reasons as well, but those are the two major ones.

1) I was looking for a tell and it wasn't there. Zigmen was probably bluffing and i got confused. But the thing i don't see is why this amount to scum behavior. It's not like everything I said in this thread naive behavior.

if i were playing the naive game i wouldn't have said that there was no chance of you being scum because the 12th & 17th letter is from the word eliminate, and you being scum would never have taken a chance on a word like that. because there are more than a few words that could be used there. this was said desipte a few people saying there was 10-20% chance of you being scum.

[mononoke]

mononoke, do you know what 'tell' means?

I don't like sifaka's silence .. if she doesn't post in the next couple of hours, I'll probably be voting for her.

Yeah, a tell is a clue or sign

[charlou]

mononoke, at first I thought you couldn't be bothered to read the thread properly, but now you just come across as genuinely confused.

I don't like sifaka's silence .. if she doesn't post in the next couple of hours, I'll probably be voting for her.

Nomally I'd agree, except she just had a game break down at Ratskep (which sucked). Those games require a lot more GM time than these do, and trying to restart a broken game will be time consuming.

I know how much time it takes to GM a small game that doesn't break down. I can't imagine how she's managing that little disaster as well as try to keep up with this game.

I'm sure, she'll try, though. She may ask to be subbed out, too.

Ohhh .. okay .. benefit of the doubt for sifaka for now then.

[Zigmen]

[1) I was looking for a tell and it wasn't there. Zigmen was probably bluffing and i got confused. But the thing i don't see is why this amount to scum behavior. It's not like everything I said in this thread naive behavior.

if i were playing the naive game i wouldn't have said that there was no chance of you beingbecause the 12th & 17th letter is from the word eliminate, scum and you being scum would never have taken a chance on a word like that. because there are more than a few words that could be used there. this was said desipte a few people saying there was 10-20% chance of you being scum.

Crikies~

Now that the role PM is public, I'd like to point out that the 12th and 17th letters are not from the word eliminate, though i could see how you might have come to that conclusion (in error cuz it would be 12+16) after Gall revealed the letters.

A normal town would have just looked at their PM and counted.

The role PM is now posted in the PG. You can go there and count it if you like.

[Azathoth]

Ok here is my analysis.

Towny

Me
Zig
GS

Unsure

Charlou-hopefully she will end up mayor
Normal- needs a view. nothing to go on with him yet
Mantis-playing like mantis
sifaka- silent
UT-silent
higgs-mostly silent, not enough for a read

Looking scummy

Ani- he is too quiet, when he is town he is noisy and obnoxious
Feck- stood well back when we were going at GS but seems to be going at mono a bit now. Is he bussing or jumping on a town lynch? time will tell.
Irre- took pains to dissasociate when GS was being tormented and has gone on to putting out throwaway votes on the quiet ones.
Mono- special hunting, muddying the thread with crap that is now irrelevant.

As it is the way things are looking like going

Vote Mononoke

It will give something to go on tomorrow whichever way she flips