Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil

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Post by oblivion » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:44 pm

Zigmen wrote:
Job-claim list

guests 5 irre diva amok linus MZ r.c
waiters 2 shizz feck
VIP 2 charlou (uninvited) UT zig
body guards 2 ksen ani
officers 2 ob gib contra (uninvited)

and aza indie
Diva is dead
MZ and RC have been viewed.

That leaves Amok, Linus, and Irre.

One is Scum or Agent 47.

##Vote Linus##

And Gib, if you Final Vote today you will become my default day 1 vote for a month.
I really don't like the assumption that your view will find agent 47. if the player is a traitor they view as town.

and what was the point of a disguise viewer on both teams?

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Post by Zigmen » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:57 pm

oblivion wrote: I really don't like the assumption that your view will find agent 47. if the player is a traitor they view as town.

and what was the point of a disguise viewer on both teams?
Hrmmm.

We do know this:

Everyone got a PM something like this:

IDENTITY (/DISGUISE) - ALIGNMENT - ROLE - NIGHT ACTIONS

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Post by Contrapposto » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:00 pm

Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.

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Post by Linus » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:03 pm

Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.

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Post by Zigmen » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Oblivion, you have a point.

Why would both team get a disguise viewer?

And, as I ponder this, I can't help but think that perhaps Contra worried that his disguise as an Officer had already been viewed, or might still be, so he had to claim officer or get caught in a lie.

Here's another thought:

Wouldn't Agent 47 have a really good name-claim? I mean, a really good one?

The other officers, you and Gib, have invitations which, as far as we know, indicate Franchise. Gib has also been viewed.

I'm convinced. Contra is Agent 47.

And, to keep him from winning outright, he has to go today.

##Unvote##

##Vote Contra##


That still leaves a Scum among the Guests, though, but it prevents an immediate loss today. I assume I'll be killed tonight unless Ksen really is a bodyguard, unlike Ani.
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Post by r.c » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Linus wrote:
Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.
Agent 47 is immune to your blocks. Yet its agent 47 who killed franchise every time. What purpose would your block serve then?

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Post by Zigmen » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:09 pm

Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
Why on earth would you block one of the 2 invited officers? They're as cleared as anyone we have right now.
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Post by Contrapposto » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:10 pm

Linus wrote:
Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.
I already clarified that or so I thought. My PM said that a "VIP " was immune, not a "GUEST". 47 is a guest. I made a wrong assumption about my role PM.
Also. What the hell is this "viewed" question some of you are wanting an answer for? I am working and on my phone.

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Post by amok » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:11 pm

and what was the point of a disguise viewer on both teams?
The Town disguise viewer would have been to find Scum or fellow Specials. The Scum disguise viewer would have been to find Specials (the targets from the OP).

The Seer seems to be a more traditional function of seeing just alignment.

After today's lynch we have one more chance for a view with Ksen protecting Zigmen.

One of Irre, Amok, Linus is now most likely to be Agent 47 (with the possibility of MZ and RC, if Agent 47 is like the Don in other games I've played, where they show Town to a Seer). One of Oblivion or Contra must be the other Scum.

I'm kind of shocked that Agent 47 tried to kill Zigmen, after all. Everyone knew he was protected.
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Post by oblivion » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:12 pm

##vote Contra##

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Post by Zigmen » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:13 pm

r.c wrote:
Linus wrote:
Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.
Agent 47 is immune to your blocks. Yet its agent 47 who killed franchise every time. What purpose would your block serve then?
Good question.

And a follow up question to our real Officers, do either of you have any night ability at all?

Consider the VIPs (even the fake one) could all view in some way.

Contra claims Blocker. Does this add up?
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Post by amok » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:16 pm

That still leaves a Scum among the Guests, though, but it prevents an immediate loss today. I assume I'll be killed tonight unless Ksen really is a bodyguard, unlike Ani.
Pardon. I thought Ani was a bodyguard.
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Post by Linus » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:18 pm

Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:
Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.
I already clarified that or so I thought. My PM said that a "VIP " was immune, not a "GUEST". 47 is a guest. I made a wrong assumption about my role PM.
Also. What the hell is this "viewed" question some of you are wanting an answer for? I am working and on my phone.
Thanks, I missed that. I'll note down "if contra is town, then oblivion is not agent 47" after all.

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Post by oblivion » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:25 pm

Zigmen wrote:
r.c wrote:
Linus wrote:
Contrapposto wrote:
Linus wrote:contra, who did you block?
Oblivion. I will reluctantly say that she seems to be clear since a kill happened.
I must confess that when I asked the question, I was hoping to get a cleared player (or, more precisely, I was hoping for near-certain knowledge of the form "if contra is town, then player X is not agent 47"). But then I remembered, you said agent 47 is immune to your blocks.
Agent 47 is immune to your blocks. Yet its agent 47 who killed franchise every time. What purpose would your block serve then?
Good question.

And a follow up question to our real Officers, do either of you have any night ability at all?

Consider the VIPs (even the fake one) could all view in some way.

Contra claims Blocker. Does this add up?
I do not have a night ability.

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Post by Zigmen » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:27 pm

amok wrote:
That still leaves a Scum among the Guests, though, but it prevents an immediate loss today. I assume I'll be killed tonight unless Ksen really is a bodyguard, unlike Ani.
Pardon. I thought Ani was a bodyguard.
Yes, Ani was the Bodyguard who offered to "protect" me last night.

But, Ani popped as "Vanilla." She had no real powers.

IOW, Ani was classed as a Bodyguard, but wasn't really a special.

There's a chance that Ksen may be the real Bodyguard (with actual protective powers) but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Ani's ruse was good enough to draw the Scum kill off of me for one night, which is why I thanked her for taking the bullet for me.
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