Timebomb Game Thread

[gib]

unvote; vote Feck

how come?

because he's got me worried today.

What has stood out about feck to me is, he is paying way more attention to the game than he normally does. But I don't know if the reason is good or evil.

he was scum in the tr game that just finished and he paid that game very little attention compared to this one, i'd guess he made like 10 times more posts here than he did on the tr game during the days where they overlapped

[gib]

Even mentioning recruitment is wifomy afaic.
It was listed as a remote possibiliity.
Maybe the vig and scum hit the same player. Whoosh, they survive and get recruited.

agree recruiting is remote but your mechanism there is so far out i just can't see it

[gib]

I'm getting suspicious of fuzzy, with the insatiable curiosity and the lockstep voting behind oblivion.

this looks a little weak.

Maybe so, but the game I was briefly in at TR with him he didn't seem to actually, you know, play the game.

this is BS! fuzzy was seer in that game and he viewed me as town, posted a very strong hint that he had done so and iirc you and/or fatima (also both town in that game) leapt on him for messing about! If you guys had taken him a little more seriously in that game i wouldn't have been up for the lynch and had to out as vig. Luckily we won that one anyway but sheesh

[gib]

oblivion, fuzzy's one of those zany people you seem to be a bit maternal about over at TR (don't blame you, I think they're cute as buttons, too), but best not to let it get in the way of your judgement, I think.


I protected myself to prevent points being added. Unfortunately, if anyone tried to remove points from me they could not, so my tally is unchanged. I could not protect ob two nights in a row, or I would have protected her. Had I known the point addition on night one would be so high, I may well have played this the other way around.

I was in agreement with MZ's idea to put pressure on everyone in our bid to achieve no scum standing at end game and still think it has merit if there's still a vig on our side.

I also follow oblivion's rationale wrt her vote on Feck .. I think I've been with her on the theory since yesterday, if I understood her correctly then. I think we should be aiming to arm Feck today, and render him inactive at night.

actually you know, screw being nice about it, mz's theory is garbage. If we follow it scum will also be able to arm any of us in one night, we don't want that. make them spend two night actions instead of one if they want to arm someone. Let's stick with putting points on likely scum and not do 1/3 of the scums work for them.

You seem vehemently opposed to the possibility of us placing scum within arming range, UT.

zany is a little insulting - fuzzy is a vauled staff member at tr - get it into your head that he's no idiot. This is like going through that bit in the tr game all over again

[Fuzzy Fungi]

I'm not spreading Wifom (thank you OB ) I wasn't recruited .Nothing (I know of ) happened to me at night .

what do you think of "authorized"?

[gib]

I think gonzo is town. I think Irre is nailing him to the wall.
My ploy on picking on the scummiest player may have back fired but I had my reasons.
I can't reveal them now.

i'm 11 hours behind but at this stage you're worrying me a lot less than you were. I don't buy the gonzo thing either.

[gib]

OMG praying posted!!

have a cookie!

[gib]

charlou, iirc fuzzy has 3 voted points on him. he is in reach of being armed if his curiosity looks anti town. for now I think we have better targets.

like irre. and feck.

fwiw the vote switcher/remover folks have better targets than me imo.

feckscum relies on the recruiting longshot, at this stage i'll vote irre

[Feck]

Fuzzy is more cleverer than he seems and Gib is not as stupid as he looks


I have no idea about the Authorized phone call thing , I can see why it would cause speculation but ATM I have as much information as other town do on this.

[gib]

praying, comes off as defensively passive aggressive which doesn't do her any favours, but I think that's her style and not unlike her town game last time. Does anyone know what her scum game is like?

i think i may have been in a scum team with her, not sure. ob will know which whiteboards we'd need to look at for this

[gib]

praying, comes off as defensively passive aggressive which doesn't do her any favours, but I think that's her style and not unlike her town game last time. Does anyone know what her scum game is like?

it's her town game IMO. Her scum game is more self-possessed and less reactive.

so what's with neutralizing her? idgi

[gib]

You have a vote on town.
Your desire to follow UTs wish kind of falls apart at the first test.
No one knows who is town.

you do like to characterize don't you. I am not following UT, if anything he/she is following me, cause I objected to that plan of yours when you said it, before UT posted about it.

I think we have two players that we need to try and neutralize if at all possible. Irre is one. The results of last night's votes and the mad scramble of the last half hour has been bothering me ever since. Even if it was inadvertant, IMO it was a bad result for town.

Praying is the other one. She's a loose cannon.

Town needs to be sure that whatever our will is for the night results, it is a big enough majority that scum and town loose cannons can't sway it another direction.

I'm singling praying and irre out as examples of two different dangerous players. they are examples, not the sum total of the problem.

They are in this game until the vests detonate. They can do damage every single day.

I tend to agree. A couple of questions wrt praying though ... Am I right in thinking that a town praying loose cannon is only a problem if she has some night action ability? Is there any reason to think that's the case?

she'd be way more of a problem if she were both way off track and had a night action.

The last time I remember her in the vig role, she night killed the outed seer.

but, as you can see, she'll trolley track on someone and hit them with votes day after day after day, even if she's the only one. She's going to be able to do this until the vests detonate and there's not a god damn thing anyone can do about it. I just hope she moves on to someone else. Maybe we'll get lucky and she'll decide I"m scum.

lol ok i get it now

[gib]

I've been feeling kind of defeated tonight. I don't think things are going well for town.

but the same advantages this game gives to scum - the ability to keep voting even after you're "dead", is also an advantage for town, and town started with the numerical advantage.

gib is a cypher. and the white-knighting that irre does every time someone questions his participation/substance is setting off alarms almost more than the lack of read I have on him atm.

The change in Feck's play today is alarming, but I think we at least have him on the radar.

MZ continually creeps further into the townish column.

We're just going to have to live with praying and her votes, and later if we think we can afford to lose another town, she'd be a good one to use some insurance on unless something changes.

I hope we have a seer and they can come forward in another day or two with some reads on players who aren't already armed or nearly armed.

are you saying irre has been whiteknighting me? example?

[gib]

and where the hell is everyone, the login error seems fixed but gonzo, gib, aza and mantis have pretty much been no shows.

at 4.46am i was asleep hth

[praying]

I think we have two players that we need to try and neutralize if at all possible. Irre is one. The results of last night's votes and the mad scramble of the last half hour has been bothering me ever since. Even if it was inadvertant, IMO it was a bad result for town.

Praying is the other one. She's a loose cannon.

Town needs to be sure that whatever our will is for the night results, it is a big enough majority that scum and town loose cannons can't sway it another direction.

I'm singling praying and irre out as examples of two different dangerous players. they are examples, not the sum total of the problem.

They are in this game until the vests detonate. They can do damage every single day.

Raven though I think you are town I know you can play an awfully good, look like town scum game. I also know that your hunting abilities have been way out of whack the last several games, so between the two I am thinking town should not put all their eggs in your game basket. My thoughts are we should attempt to play this game as close to as a normal mafia game as possible.

That said why am I a loose cannon, because I think mz's crack pot plan of voting for people just to get them to two points is stupid? Or because I haven't voted with the sheeple?

Here is my list of scum suspects
Mz already given reasons but add to that his/her dumb plan
Gib he's posting but it is inconsqential stuff
Fuzzy same as above but more so but I am not sure if that is just fuzzy's playing style or he isusing the strange game setup to hide under with that.