One for KLR (Aircraft Question)
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One for KLR (Aircraft Question)
Take a peek at this photo of a Boeing 707:
And, in addition, this image of the rear of one of the engines:
What was the point of that complicated exhaust arrangement? Wouldn't the engine have delivered more thrust with a simpler exhaust?
Also, since I've learned that the 707 was the first commercial airliner with thrust reversers, wouldn't that complex exhaust setup simply have added to the complexity of fitting thrust reversers to the engines?
It seems to me, looking at those pictures, that someone went to an awful lot of trouble, to shape metal into a complex shape, for no immediately obvious reason. I presume there was a reason for this baroque-looking exhaust, otherwise Boeing and the engine makers wouldn't have wasted manufacturing effort upon it, but I can't find any reason stated for that elaborate piece of metal at the rear of the engine. Even more puzzling, is the fact that the thrust reversers employed were "clamshell" type thrust reversers, which presumably are mechanically simpler if you have a simple cylindrical exhaust.
Now, since klr is our resident aircraft expert, perhaps he can come in and answer some of the above?
And, in addition, this image of the rear of one of the engines:
What was the point of that complicated exhaust arrangement? Wouldn't the engine have delivered more thrust with a simpler exhaust?
Also, since I've learned that the 707 was the first commercial airliner with thrust reversers, wouldn't that complex exhaust setup simply have added to the complexity of fitting thrust reversers to the engines?
It seems to me, looking at those pictures, that someone went to an awful lot of trouble, to shape metal into a complex shape, for no immediately obvious reason. I presume there was a reason for this baroque-looking exhaust, otherwise Boeing and the engine makers wouldn't have wasted manufacturing effort upon it, but I can't find any reason stated for that elaborate piece of metal at the rear of the engine. Even more puzzling, is the fact that the thrust reversers employed were "clamshell" type thrust reversers, which presumably are mechanically simpler if you have a simple cylindrical exhaust.
Now, since klr is our resident aircraft expert, perhaps he can come in and answer some of the above?
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Re: One for KLR (Aircraft Question)
Venturis.
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I made a venturi-based propane torch. It melts aluminium.
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Accelerates the flow of gases by breaking the "sound barrier" at a choke point. The smooth transition allows the shock wave to move on past and supersonic flow results.Făkünamę wrote:I made a venturi-based propane torch. It melts aluminium.
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A little googlefishing suggests it's the Pratt & Whitney JT3C-7 turbojet engine
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Re: One for KLR (Aircraft Question)
Fun part is, similar exhausts were also featured on 707s fitted with Rolls-Royce Conway engines. The BOAC airliner pic I supplied features one of those RR engined planes.
Plus, if venturis were such a good idea, why have I only ever seen that "flower petal" exhaust arrangement on 707s? I've never seen the same arrangement featured on any other aircraft, including other members of the Boeing stable, such as the 727 and 737 (the 747 featured bypass turbofans and consequently doesn't count amongst 1970s vintage airliners).
Plus, if venturis were such a good idea, why have I only ever seen that "flower petal" exhaust arrangement on 707s? I've never seen the same arrangement featured on any other aircraft, including other members of the Boeing stable, such as the 727 and 737 (the 747 featured bypass turbofans and consequently doesn't count amongst 1970s vintage airliners).
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Re: One for KLR (Aircraft Question)
Theory didn't work out as expected. They finally just fluted the exhaust and went with that.Calilasseia wrote:Fun part is, similar exhausts were also featured on 707s fitted with Rolls-Royce Conway engines. The BOAC airliner pic I supplied features one of those RR engined planes.
Plus, if venturis were such a good idea, why have I only ever seen that "flower petal" exhaust arrangement on 707s? I've never seen the same arrangement featured on any other aircraft, including other members of the Boeing stable, such as the 727 and 737 (the 747 featured bypass turbofans and consequently doesn't count amongst 1970s vintage airliners).
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Them were early jet engines, long before the days of turbofans.
FWIW, I'm more used to looking at the exhausts of military engines. I've seen those exhaust designs before, but never stopped to look closer.
FWIW, I'm more used to looking at the exhausts of military engines. I've seen those exhaust designs before, but never stopped to look closer.
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