Magick and the Occult

[Pappa]

I have a signed limited edition of some of Crowley's lousy poetry, would that help?

I also used to be a witch. (I know, )

Witch poems Bella ? ssrsly

To know to Will and to oh um....

This is the book I have - rather valuable, apparently.

http://www.biblio.com/books/229936999.html

My witchery had nothing to do with him, though... someone gave me the book years ago. I was far more benign.

No sex magick then?

[Bella Fortuna]

I have a signed limited edition of some of Crowley's lousy poetry, would that help?

I also used to be a witch. (I know, )

Witch poems Bella ? ssrsly

To know to Will and to oh um....

This is the book I have - rather valuable, apparently.

http://www.biblio.com/books/229936999.html

My witchery had nothing to do with him, though... someone gave me the book years ago. I was far more benign.

No sex magick then?

I don't need no stinkin' book for that, my lad.

[electricwhiteboy]

I have a signed limited edition of some of Crowley's lousy poetry, would that help?

I find his poetry nigh on unreadable wank, actually I find his writings on the occult unreadable wank too, his constant piss taking and obfuscation almost completely counter balance any insight the man had. People treat him like he was the authority on the occult, or famously in the press as “The Wickedest Man In the World”, neither of which are really true.

[Bella Fortuna]

I have a signed limited edition of some of Crowley's lousy poetry, would that help?

I find his poetry nigh on unreadable wank, actually I find his writings on the occult unreadable wank too, his constant piss taking and obfuscation almost completely counter balance any insight the man had. People treat him like he was the authority on the occult, or famously in the press as “The Wickedest Man In the World”, neither of which are really true.

His writing inspires the phrase "hoary dreck" in me.

[electricwhiteboy]

No sex magick then?

Ummmm.... read a bit and dabbled, shall we say. It's all fairly ludicrous yogic nonsense, with chakras, guided meditation, hilarious and deeply unsexy breathing exercises designed to make you almost hyperventilate. It’s Tantric Sex with added woo basically, as an atheist and rationalist the whole “mystical and spiritual union of sex” bullshit is rather off-putting. That said there might be something to it, whether or not it’s possible to achieve the same effects with different and less risible techniques is open to conjecture.

Actually, put it this way I've never had sex on poppers, but I imagine the effects are somewhat comparable to that which is achievable through Sex Magick.

[charlou]

Why then bother to call Art, magick, isn’t it all a bit pretentious? Completely, but certainly it’s a more down to earth, and damn sight more rational, view of the Occult. We are quite happy to use magical terms for art, evocative, ethereal, spellbinding, charming, or even saying that a concert was “magical”. If we take these from being a metaphor to actually defining what art is by these terms, then you’ll get what I’m talking about. When art has an actual purpose then I would call this magick. So if you want what my definition of Black Magic is then I would say, with tongue in cheek, advertising. Attaching a tribe like devotion to a particular logo on a sweatshirt, associating their product with an unrelated pleasant image, chocolate or perfume with sex, diesel engines belching out flowers, jeans with rebellion or sex, or both. If you can imagine art trying to be as persuasive, as cunning and manipulating as advertising, to actually try to create a beneficial end then you’ve got magick.

Interesting approach ... Pantheism similarly naturalises the notion of 'god'.

[Pappa]

No sex magick then?

Ummmm.... read a bit and dabbled, shall we say. It's all fairly ludicrous yogic nonsense, with chakras, guided meditation, hilarious and deeply unsexy breathing exercises designed to make you almost hyperventilate. It’s Tantric Sex with added woo basically, as an atheist and rationalist the whole “mystical and spiritual union of sex” bullshit is rather off-putting. That said there might be something to it, whether or not it’s possible to achieve the same effects with different and less risible techniques is open to conjecture.

Actually, put it this way I've never had sex on poppers, but I imagine the effects are somewhat comparable to that which is achievable through Sex Magick.

You should try it on acid.... now that is weird.