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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed May 09, 2012 10:33 pm

Fundies do geology and radiodating
http://www.creationism.org/articles/swenson1.htm
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by mistermack » Wed May 09, 2012 11:11 pm

Tero wrote:Fundies do geology and radiodating
http://www.creationism.org/articles/swenson1.htm
It's a bit telling that they put this shit out on a website. They don't get it published in a recognised scientific journal.
They don't put all of their work up for peer review.

It's just crank stuff.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 09, 2012 11:14 pm

Tero, google "flood geology" for a good laugh at some "papers".
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Svartalf » Wed May 09, 2012 11:22 pm

a good laugh? even a tyro like me hesitates between crying and berserk rage when I read some of that lame.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu May 10, 2012 12:19 am

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https://esapolitics.blogspot.com
http://esabirdsne.blogspot.com/
Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 10, 2012 12:21 am

"Theistic Evolution"? WTF?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu May 10, 2012 12:32 am

https://esapolitics.blogspot.com
http://esabirdsne.blogspot.com/
Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 10, 2012 12:42 am

Ah, good, the first link is a debunking of YEC flood mythology.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu May 10, 2012 12:48 am

By an evangelist. Making sure pretty much nobody reads it.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu May 10, 2012 11:49 pm

Polystrate. Never heard of it before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polystrate_fossil
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Fri May 11, 2012 10:29 pm

I copied the post and lost one of the links. This is an Amazon discussion quoting the talkorigins.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/blood.html

Amazon discussion on the topic:

For those disinclined to click on links, here are some of the
concluding remarks:

Answers in Genesis Ministry generally, and Carl Wieland CEO-Australia
specifically, are the principal sources of the creationists' repeated
falsehood that dinosaurs are modern because blood cells and hemoglobin
have been found in fresh bone. There are in fact five gross errors in
just those few words that originated with Wieland and Answers in
Genesis. These falsehoods are found commonly repeated throughout the
creationist literature. We have demonstrated above that Carl Wieland,
writing for Answers in Genesis, falsely represented this research to
his readers. Minimally any objective reader should be satisfied that
within the scientific literature, a) "red blood cells" have not been
found in dinosaur bone, b) Schweitzer did not say that there were "red
blood cells" in her specimens, c) hemoglobin was not found in dinosaur
bone, d) Schweitzer did not say that hemoglobin was found in dinosaur
bone, e) Wieland has grossly falsified his account of this research,
if he ever read the scientific presentations at all. As Wieland never
cited the scientific literature, it is presumed that he never bothered
to become informed about the issues that he wrote about. If, however,
he has read the actual science, he is guilty of more than "willful
ignorance", and has actively lied to a trusting public. Schweitzer did
make some early remarks to news reporters that were easily exploited
by creationists such as Wieland. Even the popularized version of
Schweitzer's work was distorted through selective quoting and direct
misrepresentation. This is a common problem when trying to communicate
science - anything that can be misinterpreted by creationists probably
will be. But the test of science is in the scientific literature, and
at no point did her speculative remarks enter the scientific dialog.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat May 12, 2012 11:48 am

We might have converted a creationist to a regular xtian. This is the guy
http://www.amazon.com/review/RWH2MDV6PO ... r_rdp_perm

He understands math and was excited for understanding radiometric dating.
https://esapolitics.blogspot.com
http://esabirdsne.blogspot.com/
Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 12, 2012 11:58 am

Tero wrote:We might have converted a creationist to a regular xtian. This is the guy
http://www.amazon.com/review/RWH2MDV6PO ... r_rdp_perm

He understands math and was excited for understanding radiometric dating.
OECs are not so dangerous. It's a start. :tup:
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat May 12, 2012 8:20 pm

Well, he or she was probably a Poe. She gave her location as Wales, England!
:funny:
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 12, 2012 9:04 pm

Tero wrote:Well, he or she was probably a Poe. She gave her location as Wales, England!
:funny:
One of them sneaky expats, I bet. :lay:
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