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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:07 am

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:03 am

Catch of the day:
"If she were a biped, surely her upper and lower extremities would point toward an upright stance. After all, the bone that led to Johansonís discovery of Lucy was that of the arm. "

Arms tell you nothing about whether or not a primate is a bipedal walker. Sorry. Everyone knows that Lucy was still partially arboreal, it's part of the evidence of her being intermediate.

"A chance discovery made by looking at a cast of the bones of ìLucy,î the most famous fossil of Australopithecus afarensis, shows her wrist is stiff, like a chimpanzeeís, Brian Richmond and David Strait of George Washington University in Washington, D.C., reported. This suggests that her ancestors walked on their knuckles (Fox, 2000)."

Precisely. Her ancestors. Not her.

Adrienne Zihlman remarked: ìLucyís fossil remains match up remarkably well with the bones of a pygmy chimpî

FOR SIZE ---- classic quotemine.

"All of these facts point toward the truth that Lucy was simply an ape- like creature." As are we.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:08 am

LOL.... they ever compare the bone structues of a human, an ape, a non ape primate, and a true quadruped?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:04 am

Haeckel and even more...new...fakes
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:44 pm

Today's catch:
What really amazes me is how these complex cells made both male and female versions of every species.

It has taken a million years to make a male...we really have no clue , just a example.

Then this complex cell finds another complex cell that has created a female....but wait, did these complex cells happen at the same time ?

One would certainly die before they could reproduce if ether had to wait a 100 yrs or more, and this has to happen for every species.

I mean what are the odds ?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:53 pm

You'll find a utter mush of "science" in the typical Merkin, they get barraged by pretty TV shows with 8 minutes to solve a problem and they get total garbage from the religious folks, and it makes a soup sandwich of their knowledge base. Then they try to lecture other people on the topic.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:17 pm

Him:
I can't figure out how ID can be used as a tool for anything at all. It basically says everything is the way it is because that's the way it is - and then it layers in God on top of it by saying and things are the way they are because God made it so.
How does ID account for genetic family trees?

My answer:
I think god used slave labor from another universe to put together the dna. They had a quota to meet weekly, so they borrowed a lot from last week's work.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:06 pm

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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:42 pm

Interesting bit:
In fact, we all have 10 times as many prokaryotic cells in our bodies as eukaryotic cells (and that's not counting the mitochondria!)
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:27 pm

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:39 pm

Well, thank God it's a communist country. They have no problem getting rod of unneeded fetuses.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:40 pm

Tero wrote:Well, thank God it's a communist country. They have no problem getting rod of unneeded fetuses.
Yeah, and we have so many pandas now, good that they git rod of the extra ones.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:48 pm

Well its the panda's fault. It evolved for limited habitat. Rats dont' have that problem.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:47 am

shrimp discussion today
"shrimp (including a 3-ft. long predator),"

Anomalocaris wasn't a shrimp, you bl*ckhead

OK, everyone else check out AronRa on transitional fossils

Largo doesn't need to watch because he doesn't need evidence to arrive at a conclusion.

Edit. Would have been helpful to have included the link

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Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:37 am

A FALSIFIABLE, SCIENTIFICALLY TESTABLE CREATION THEORY (based on the
Genesis chapter 3 creation story; not chapter 1):

Basis in principle/rule: Most myths are based on some real-world
identifiable element/kernel of truth.

Creation Myth Basis: Garden of Eden/Adam and Eve- Perhaps it was
something more a environmentally controlled dome or an open corral.
Maybe Eve wasn't LUCY, but Adam WAS Tarzan.

Falsifiable hypothesis: Homo sapiens neanderthalensis and maybe the
later Australopithecines were in a partially zoo-llke, or some other
semi-controlled environmental setting. Traits were selected for there
through intelligent intervention. This and not culture resulted in the
development of multiple subspecies and even species changes that
included readily identifiable domestication traits such as increases
in gracile features in morphology.

Predicted Evidence Pro.: H. s.n. -> H.s.s. subspecies changes are
domestication traits. They are the result of domestication. So might
also many A.r. -> A. a. changes be. Homo sapiens sapiens have numerous
traits in evidence that can best be attributed to the effects of
domestication. They resulted from artificial selection and not natural
selection.

Projected Evidence Con: Homo s. s. has no domestication traits, but
natural selection-only affected traits. Any morphological features
that look like ones they might be attributable to effects of
artificial selection can be better attributed to effects of culture
and the development of large groups instead. (Nonhominid primate
control group: baboons/rhesus monkeys).
From creationist I will call RK
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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