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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:39 pm

Fundies: You say there are gaps in the fossil record? And this disproves evolution?

Okay. Would you please provide the skeleton of every single person between you and Adam and Eve. Not doing so will prove creationism is wrong.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:45 pm

Dang, where are they buried?
You think they can find some of the Noahs near mount Ararat?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:48 pm

Svartalf wrote:Dang, where are they buried?
You think they can find some of the Noahs near mount Ararat?
I don't care where they're at. If they can't produce them, creationism is false.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:50 pm

Mmmh... maybe we should send Graham Hancock in a quest for Adam and Eve... he did reveal where you can find the Ark of the Covenant.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:13 am

Rational Wiki

"Operational science" is a term coined by creationists for any science that "deals with testing and verifying ideas in the present and leads to the production of useful products like computers, cars, and satellites."[1] It is used to designate those sciences which creationists have little, if any, complaints about, in opposition of what are designated as historical sciences.
The term is not considered valid scientific terminology, and widely appears solely in arguments presented by creationists about whether ideas such as abiogenesis, evolution and the Big Bang Theory are really scientific.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:19 am

Tero wrote:Rational Wiki

"Operational science" is a term coined by creationists for any science that "deals with testing and verifying ideas in the present and leads to the production of useful products like computers, cars, and satellites."[1] It is used to designate those sciences which creationists have little, if any, complaints about, in opposition of what are designated as historical sciences.
The term is not considered valid scientific terminology, and widely appears solely in arguments presented by creationists about whether ideas such as abiogenesis, evolution and the Big Bang Theory are really scientific.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:34 pm

reviewer reviews polygamy, divorce and evolution
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we have a Mormon fundamentalist there? But he is in UK. Mormon wannabe? UK Mormon?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:43 pm

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:58 am

catch of the day
"*~95% of all fossils are shallow marine organisms, such as corals and shellfish.
*~95% of the remaining 5% are algae and plants.
*~95% of the remaining 0.25% are invertebrates, including insects.
*The remaining 0.0125% are vertebrates, mostly fish.
(95% of land vertebrates consist of less than one bone, and 95% of mammal fossils are from the Ice Age after the Flood.) "

What is it with creationists, that you can refute what they say 30 times, they wait a couple of days, and then cut and paste it all over again?
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:58 am

advanced quote mining and "peer" review
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:19 am

Fundies like to misquote a Dr Koonin. One of our amazon people e mailed him and got a reply:
Dear Dr Caplan,

here is the link to the book:

http://techbus.safaribooksonline.com/bo ... 0132623117

and here is a link to an original article dealing with the odds for the origin of life, and the importance of taking into account the number of planets, galaxies and universes:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17540027

You are very right about quotes out of context. It is practically impossible to say anything novel about evolution and not to be used by ID advocates.
IT DOES NOT HELP TO REPEAT ANY NUMBER OF TIMES THAT ID IS NONSENSE... (Emphasis added by me.)

Best regards,

Eugene V. Koonin
National Center for Biotechnology Information National Library of Medicine, NIH, Bethesda, USA
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:06 am

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:59 pm

Fundie demanded that abiogenesis come up with a fully functional modern cell right away.

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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:01 pm

Tero wrote:Fundie demanded that abiogenesis come up with a fully functional modern cell right away.

The come back
If BAM had been with the Wright brothers he would have insisted they develop radar, ATC, GPS, the FAA and those little bags of peanuts or the flight wouldn't count.
Fundie ignores this and makes another stupid demand.
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Re: Evolution for fundamentalists

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:29 pm

He actually does understand some biology. I copied one of his posts here:
http://esatero.blogspot.com/2012/07/fun ... ering.html
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Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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