Why does every state have to try their own creationism law?

Post by **Tero** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:40 pm

Indiana.
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/201 ... -class.ars

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:47 pm

They will keep trying to break the law wherever they can, hoping that one will pass muster. It's rather like robbing liquor stores, one of them may have enough money to justify a possible prison term.

Post by **amused** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:35 pm

Why? Because every state has its own batch of loons who elect their pet loons to the state legislature. Most of them lie about their intent when running at a statewide level - senators, but many of the representatives from rural areas can be open about it. Their bills usually never come out of committee except maybe during an election year. Then they get run up the flag for a few months to impress the loons before election day.

Post by **Thumpalumpacus** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:13 pm

Expecting politicians to know the Constitution?

What's next?!

Post by **Ronja** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:44 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Expecting politicians to know the Constitution?

What's next?!

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Seems to make no difference if they are Indiana politicians or Finnish - some will have a rather huge blind spot in about the same area of their political field of vision...

Post by **Clinton Huxley** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:51 pm

Idiots in every state, sometimes pushing at an open door.

Post by **Seth** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:09 pm

Because censoring what school children can hear goes against everything the United States and the First Amendment are about. Information is information, it has no moral or ethical burden attached to it, and therefore if the people of a sovereign state want their kids to learn about creationism, it's their right to have it taught to their children in the public schools, right alongside evolution.

Post by **Thumpalumpacus** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:06 pm

Ronja wrote:
Thumpalumpacus wrote:Expecting politicians to know the Constitution?

What's next?!
. Seems to make no difference if they are Indiana politicians or Finnish - some will have a rather huge blind spot in about the same area of their political field of vision...

You mean the one right behind their navel, and immediately in front of their eyes?

Post by **Ronja** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:41 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:
Ronja wrote:
Thumpalumpacus wrote:Expecting politicians to know the Constitution?

What's next?!
. Seems to make no difference if they are Indiana politicians or Finnish - some will have a rather huge blind spot in about the same area of their political field of vision...
You mean the one right behind their navel, and immediately in front of their eyes?

If that is where constitutional issues reside, then yes.

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:43 pm

When one puts the needs/requirements/desires of an imaginary being ahead of the good of the society one lives in, this is what we get.

Post by **Tero** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:51 pm

Seth wrote:Because censoring what school children can hear goes against everything the United States and the First Amendment are about. Information is information, it has no moral or ethical burden attached to it, and therefore if the people of a sovereign state want their kids to learn about creationism, it's their right to have it taught to their children in the public schools, right alongside evolution.

No information has ever come forth about intelligent design. We only teach chemistry in school, based on facts. We do not teach, for instance, homeopathy. We could teach herbal medicne if people still knew where herbs grow.

Post by **Pappa** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:59 pm

I'd always assumed it was simply because education is not a federal matter and so decided at the state level. Is that not correct?

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:01 pm

Pappa wrote:I'd always assumed it was simply because education is not a federal matter and so decided at the state level. Is that not correct?

Each state has its own "School Boards", this is where the creationists try to slip their shite in. They seem to be hoping that if one state okays it there will be a domino effect. However, as the Lemon Test mandates against this there's really no chance they'll be successful. I, for one, hope they eventually get a state law passed so the Supremes are forced to make a call.

Post by **Tero** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:04 pm

It's comical that Kansas has a good university that publishes one evolution journal.

Post by **Thumpalumpacus** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:41 pm

Gawdzilla wrote: I, for one, hope they eventually get a state law passed so the Supremes are forced to make a call.

This has happened already, in a sense. In both Arkansas and Louisiana, state-level laws mandating equal discussion for creationism have been struck down.

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