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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:52 am

DNA Turning Human Story Into a Tell-All

The tip of a girl’s 40,000-year-old pinky finger found in a cold Siberian cave, paired with faster and cheaper genetic sequencing technology, is helping scientists draw a surprisingly complex new picture of human origins.

The new view is fast supplanting the traditional idea that modern humans triumphantly marched out of Africa about 50,000 years ago, replacing all other types that had gone before.

Instead, the genetic analysis shows, modern humans encountered and bred with at least two groups of ancient humans in relatively recent times: the Neanderthals, who lived in Europe and Asia, dying out roughly 30,000 years ago, and a mysterious group known as the Denisovans, who lived in Asia and most likely vanished around the same time.

Their DNA lives on in us even though they are extinct. “In a sense, we are a hybrid species,” Chris Stringer, a paleoanthropologist who is the research leader in human origins at the Natural History Museum in London, said in an interview.

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Post by Tero » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:21 am

It's confusing to say we carry Neanderthal DNA when 95 % of our DNA is the same. Africans have no N. Dna.

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Post by JimC » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:17 am

Back then, our species was a fuzzy set...
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Post by Trinity » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:21 am

I don't want to be descended from someone called Denis :cry:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:30 am

Tero wrote:It's confusing to say we carry Neanderthal DNA when 95 % of our DNA is the same. Africans have no N. Dna.
Where confusing? Homo Neanderthalensis lived in Europe and Asia, and non Africans have DNA that comes from them, Africans do not have Neanderthal ancestors, period.
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Trinity wrote:I don't want to be descended from someone called Denis :cry:
Does your father carry the "Genghis Khan gene"?
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:10 am

The new view is fast supplanting the traditional idea that modern humans triumphantly marched out of Africa about 50,000 years ago, replacing all other types that had gone before.
That was such a silly theory anyways.

Modern humans evolved in Africa 200K years ago.
After a 150k years of "chillin" a small group of modern humans left Africa and spread through out the world.
Everybody but that small group stayed in Africa.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

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Post by apophenia » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:45 pm




Balderdash. It's impossible to derive any conclusions from genetic material that obviously underwent unknown compression forces during the flood and deposition following the flood. This much is obvious from the spurious radiometric dating. DNA exposed to normal atmospheric pressures does not display such anomalies. Test any sample of known provenance and I'll bet you get a much lower figure.


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Take something and lie down. :console:
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Post by JimC » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:16 am

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Science proves: Guys will screw anything.
It was easy in this case. The ladies would have looked at least vaguely to be the same species, quite a step up from sheep and donkeys...
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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:45 am

"In this case"?

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Post by mistermack » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 am

Tero wrote:It's confusing to say we carry Neanderthal DNA when 95 % of our DNA is the same. Africans have no N. Dna.
If you say it like that, it is confusing, but it's because it's wrong.

What do you mean by Neanderthal dna? ALL of a Neanderthal's dna, or just the tiny amount that made them different?

Because in fact what you should say is that Africans have more than 99% of the TOTAL dna of a Neanderthal.

But they have NONE of the dna that was UNIQUE to Neanderthals.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:46 am

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