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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by jd » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:14 pm

Fred Kite wrote:
jd wrote:"Okum" is an interesting spelling, by the way - not seen that one before.

Grammar, spelling, logic. All consistently of the same standard.
yes. I meant ockhams razor.

What's with the insults by the way?

Are you unable to contribute something to the discussion in a civil manner...or do you have a problem?
Are you perhaps going to insinuate that I have Aspergers? :hehe:

I pointed out that you have been consitantly wrong about what went on at RDF, have been shown to be wrong and have yet repeated your allegations.

The subsequent comment was a joke.

For someone who is quick to suggest psychological problems in people who have simply been angered and are venting, you seem to be awfully sensitive, both about the reaction to Dawkins/Timonen's actions, and to the hostility that your own attacks on the "RDF refugees" have provoked. Is no-one but yourself ever to be allowed to criticise others? And you don't respond to substantive points - or is that the whole point? Generate a bit of "manufactured outrage" and you can pretend that your argument has not been addressed?
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by charlou » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:14 pm

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we've wasting more time with Fred Kite than his opinions deserve. Who's for staging a walk out of this thread and allowing him to get on with leaving us in peace? Image
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Post by Godless Libertarian » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:15 pm

Charlou wrote:I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we're wasting our time with Fred Kite. Who's for staging a walk out of this thread and allowing him to get on with leaving us in peace? Image
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by klr » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:15 pm

Charlou wrote:I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we're wasting our time with Fred Kite. Who's for staging a walk out of this thread and allowing him to get on with leaving us in peace? Image
You've read my mind, oh great one. :tup:
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Post by jd » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:16 pm

Charlou wrote:I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we've wasting more time with Fred Kite than his opinions deserve. Who's for staging a walk out of this thread and allowing him to get on with leaving us in peace? Image
But I came here for an argument! :x

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Post by Heresiarch » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:18 pm

Charlou wrote:I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we've wasting more time with Fred Kite than his opinions deserve. Who's for staging a walk out of this thread and allowing him to get on with leaving us in peace? Image
You mean behave like homogenized, pasteurized, numbered and labelled regular atheists?

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Post by Fred Kite » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:23 pm

goodboyCerberus wrote:
Fred Kite wrote:
goodboyCerberus wrote:Compare anything from RDF to YouTube comments, and come back here and continue this line of argument. I double-dog dare you.
Why should I?

What does it prove?
That the horrible state of affairs you insist warranted the dismantling of a huge forum is actually par for the course, there are worse places, the mods were doing their best to keep things under control, and technical issues were really the main reason excuse for the forum overhaul.
there are worse religions than christianity, but, that doesn't make christianity okay.

I'm not saying the mods weren't doing their best, I'm just saying they have obviously failed in their task.

Ockhams razor: If the mods did their jobs well. There wouldn't be a problem. They didn't and there is.

there were other technical considerations such as bandwidth affecting the front page and the shop, but....it's disingenuous to suggest that 100% of the fault lies at the feet of richard and josh.

it also does not justify the vicious and personal attacks on richard and josh.

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:31 pm

No-one responded to my news about the moon's orbit. :cry:

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Post by wtargentina » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:31 pm

Looks like Fred "I'm outta here" Kite is settling in for the long haul!

If you are still unsure as to why some people are angry at the decision by RDF check out Cali's contribution here - http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... hilit=cali

I guess that might give you an idea of the feelings of just one of the many outstanding contributors to the forum.

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Post by jd » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:31 pm

Fred Kite wrote:I'm not saying the mods weren't doing their best, I'm just saying they have obviously failed in their task.

Ockhams razor: If the mods did their jobs well. There wouldn't be a problem. They didn't and there is.
Logical fallacy - correllation does not demonstrate causality. You keep claiming that the site changes are down to moderating failures, but the huge amount of site traffic, and the complete lack of any claim from Richard about the failure of the site until a retrospective, self-justifying and demonstrably misleading quote-mine of a few reactions to Josh Timonen's behaviour clearly show that you are wrong. Repetition of a failed argument does not make it a successful one.
it also does not justify the vicious and personal attacks on richard and josh.
As previously requested of you, what behaviour would be required from them before you would accept some few people venting as acceptable (or at least forgivable)? You previously said "nothing" - is this correct?

(I note that Shaker's Law is still fully in effect)
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by klr » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:32 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:No-one responded to my news about the moon's orbit. :cry:
It's slowing down a bit apparently. :ugeek:
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Post by Heresiarch » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:35 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:No-one responded to my news about the moon's orbit. :cry:
Breaking news!
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:36 pm

Can we get back to talking about cheese, people? What is the place coming to with all this waffle about regularity? If you're not a regular atheist, try syrup of figs - end of.
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by klr » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:36 pm

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Thinking Aloud wrote:No-one responded to my news about the moon's orbit. :cry:
Breaking news!
The flashbacks! The flashbacks! First The Waltons, now this. :cry:
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Re: this is hugely embarrassing for regular atheists

Post by jd » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:38 pm

Syrup of figs is vile. As a child, I'd rather suffer extreme stomach cramps than take that stuff.

Fresh figs (perhaps with cheese), on the other hand, are lovely. :tup:
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