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The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?
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I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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I think this sort of discussion is very healthy. Sadly when Christians used to discuss the ins and outs of what they believed or didn't and started insisting they were right and the other guy wrong they started burning each other.Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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You can get cream for the burning.Rum wrote:I think this sort of discussion is very healthy. Sadly when Christians used to discuss the ins and outs of what they believed or didn't and started insisting they were right and the other guy wrong they started burning each other.Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?
I figured this out well over two years ago preSkepchick.Coito ergo sum wrote:What bothers me the most is that I have to go back to Seth and admit that he was right. There really is a subset of atheists called "Atheists" (albeit, now, they are dubbing themselves "Atheist Plus").... and they really are as dickish as Seth made them out to be. And, there are enough of them, and they are vocal enough, to embarrass us all.Jaygray wrote:‘Atheism Plus’ sounds like an advertisement for new improved washing powder, and I would take any claims to its efficacy with the same truckload of salt I would use for any other piece of demographic marketing. I bet the name will fit on a T shirt wonderfully.
I would look twice at any idea with an FtB badge on it anyway, because as far as I am concerned they are totally discredited. Generalisation? Yep.
Also, if whoever has come up with this imagines that a doctrinaire approach to Atheism is anything other than abject silliness, then we are not exactly dealing with intellectual heavyweights.
However if they want their own train set to play with they’re welcome; it makes zero difference to me.
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It is being discussed on facebook if anyone is interested.
http://www.facebook.com/gretachristina/ ... 8689790848
http://www.facebook.com/gretachristina/ ... 8689790848
But here’s the thing about rights. They’re not actually supposed to be voted on. That’s why they’re called rights. ~Rachel Maddow August 2010
The Second Amendment forms a fourth branch of government (an armed citizenry) in case the government goes mad. ~Larry Nutter
The Second Amendment forms a fourth branch of government (an armed citizenry) in case the government goes mad. ~Larry Nutter
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Gallstones wrote:It is being discussed on facebook if anyone is interested.
http://www.facebook.com/gretachristina/ ... 8689790848
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and you think FTB's and the Skepchicks wouldn't if they where given such power?Rum wrote:I think this sort of discussion is very healthy. Sadly when Christians used to discuss the ins and outs of what they believed or didn't and started insisting they were right and the other guy wrong they started burning each other.Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
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That's what I have identified as since learning about it a few years ago.Coito ergo sum wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Apatheist: Doesn't give flying fuck if there are any gods.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
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And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
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And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
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I should really expand on my previous comment. There is no debate here they are right and everyone who disagrees with them are wrong. First they create the 'other' then they demonize the 'other.' When you ban/outlaw dissent it is only a matter of time before the fences of the first of many gulags are built. Never trust anyone who deals in absolutes, I think the theists had a saying for this, how does it go again. 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.'Rum wrote:I think this sort of discussion is very healthy. Sadly when Christians used to discuss the ins and outs of what they believed or didn't and started insisting they were right and the other guy wrong they started burning each other.Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?
Absolutely never?DaveDodo007 wrote:Never trust anyone who deals in absolutes
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Never ever absolutely.DaveD wrote:Absolutely never?DaveDodo007 wrote:Never trust anyone who deals in absolutes
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?
Oh, I'm sure you guys will get around to burning someone pretty soon. Perhaps the whole of London, or maybe just the Vatican.Rum wrote:I think this sort of discussion is very healthy. Sadly when Christians used to discuss the ins and outs of what they believed or didn't and started insisting they were right and the other guy wrong they started burning each other.Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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