Another Skepchick War! Watson v. Grothe
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Sad thing is, Watson seems to have convinced a lot of women that atheist/skeptic conferences aren't safe to attend. It also casts women as victims who are too weak and stupid to take charge of their own safety. Watson is not doing women any favors.
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I hope she never stumbles into a Ratz meet. Her poor female sensibilities would never be able to handle it.
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It seems that Watson uses the tried and true definition of "harassment" which basically means "getting hit on by someone you don't want to have hit on you..."Ayaan wrote:Sad thing is, Watson seems to have convinced a lot of women that atheist/skeptic conferences aren't safe to attend. It also casts women as victims who are too weak and stupid to take charge of their own safety. Watson is not doing women any favors.
And, it seems that when she uses the word "safe" she is using some sleight of hand. She's not referring, I think, to physical safety, but rather "safe from unwanted comments."
That kind of broad defining of terms allows her to include anything -- even if a guy walks up to a woman in the hotel bar at night and makes a come on that she doesn't appreciate, that would be "harassment" that women are not "safe" from.
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This is what I see in the way she describes things, too.Coito ergo sum wrote:It seems that Watson uses the tried and true definition of "harassment" which basically means "getting hit on by someone you don't want to have hit on you..."Ayaan wrote:Sad thing is, Watson seems to have convinced a lot of women that atheist/skeptic conferences aren't safe to attend. It also casts women as victims who are too weak and stupid to take charge of their own safety. Watson is not doing women any favors.
And, it seems that when she uses the word "safe" she is using some sleight of hand. She's not referring, I think, to physical safety, but rather "safe from unwanted comments."
That kind of broad defining of terms allows her to include anything -- even if a guy walks up to a woman in the hotel bar at night and makes a come on that she doesn't appreciate, that would be "harassment" that women are not "safe" from.
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Which seems to demonstrate that skepticism and feminism isn't the hand in glove combo one might expect...Ayaan wrote:Sad thing is, Watson seems to have convinced a lot of women that atheist/skeptic conferences aren't safe to attend. It also casts women as victims who are too weak and stupid to take charge of their own safety. Watson is not doing women any favors.
I mean, if that many women take her blog as gospel, it shows that they are feebleminded fragile plants unable to think or decide for themselves.
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Me thinks the skepchick doth complain too much. She fancies him really! This is just public foreplay. She wants to see his "Grothe spurt"!
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Unfortunately for her, Grothe likes teh cock too...
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I know I shouldn't even give her braintime, but IT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!
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I read something a few years back, about your beloved nation, that some Feminist power-group were lobbying to actually make "unwanted advances" a crime. I laughed and ignored it thinking no-one would take it seriously. I guess I was wrong. It didn't become law, right?Coito ergo sum wrote:It seems that Watson uses the tried and true definition of "harassment" which basically means "getting hit on by someone you don't want to have hit on you..."Ayaan wrote:Sad thing is, Watson seems to have convinced a lot of women that atheist/skeptic conferences aren't safe to attend. It also casts women as victims who are too weak and stupid to take charge of their own safety. Watson is not doing women any favors.
And, it seems that when she uses the word "safe" she is using some sleight of hand. She's not referring, I think, to physical safety, but rather "safe from unwanted comments."
That kind of broad defining of terms allows her to include anything -- even if a guy walks up to a woman in the hotel bar at night and makes a come on that she doesn't appreciate, that would be "harassment" that women are not "safe" from.
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Now now, you aren't allowed to call them females. It is objectifying them as sexual playthingsTwoflower wrote:I hope she never stumbles into a Ratz meet. Her poor female sensibilities would never be able to handle it.
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Re: Another Skepchick War! Watson v. Grothe
If a man approaches a woman and she does not wish to entertain him and references
this in an obvious way then said man should just go away and leave said woman
alone : at that point it is not harassment : it becomes harassment if he does
not take note of what she has asked him to do and he persists in pestering
her : men should learn to respect women and leave them be when they
want to : this does not always translate well to reality but that is no
reason for not abiding by it however : as for women being made
to feel safe in public well that is a no brainer : though I would
extend it to all : everyone should be irrespective of gender
On the lady herself : all I know about Rebecca Watson is that she
is an atheist and feminist and has her own website and divides
opinion very easily : I do not judge one way or the other but
it is sad to see many [ Iincluding here ] using ad hom to
denegrate her : atheists are supposed to be rational
and logical : character assassination is not part of
that make up : all this bashing is not really at
all helping : you do have the freedom to say
what the hell you like and I defend to the
death your right to say it but it is not
very productive now : is it though
this in an obvious way then said man should just go away and leave said woman
alone : at that point it is not harassment : it becomes harassment if he does
not take note of what she has asked him to do and he persists in pestering
her : men should learn to respect women and leave them be when they
want to : this does not always translate well to reality but that is no
reason for not abiding by it however : as for women being made
to feel safe in public well that is a no brainer : though I would
extend it to all : everyone should be irrespective of gender
On the lady herself : all I know about Rebecca Watson is that she
is an atheist and feminist and has her own website and divides
opinion very easily : I do not judge one way or the other but
it is sad to see many [ Iincluding here ] using ad hom to
denegrate her : atheists are supposed to be rational
and logical : character assassination is not part of
that make up : all this bashing is not really at
all helping : you do have the freedom to say
what the hell you like and I defend to the
death your right to say it but it is not
very productive now : is it though
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