Yo, Tyrannical!

[Gallstones]

Rainbow is appealing your ratskep ban.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/feedb ... 28398.html

It's in feedback so you can't read it.
Take my word for it but don't hope for success.

[tattuchu]

Why are you people so obsessed with RatSkep, especially if you find it so oppressive and unpleasant there? Cheese and crackers.

[tattuchu]

p.s. Rainbow sure is a fruity name

[Gallstones]

Why are you people so obsessed with RatSkep, especially if you find it so oppressive and unpleasant there? Cheese and crackers.

It's a hobby.


People who aren't needn't.
People who are, might.

Beats the fucking hell out of discussing flatulence.
IMO.

[Gallstones]

That thread has been locked.

Surprise!

[Tyrannical]

Oh that's all right.
I already sent Kiore a friendly good bye PM from here. I was pretty much done with the place when I first got back anyways.

I did annoy a few moderators when I set my avatar to the Banned avatar a day before they did it

[Strontium Dog]

I'd bet good money that Rainbow gets a warning for "channeling" a banned member.

[charlou]

Why are you people so obsessed with RatSkep, especially if you find it so oppressive and unpleasant there? Cheese and crackers.

I don't speak for others .. I think it's not an obsession with RatSkep, but a disgruntlement with RatSkep ... and for very good reason. Their name alone .. it's just false advertising, isn't it.

[Mr.Samsa]

I'd bet good money that Rainbow gets a warning for "channeling" a banned member.

How much would you put on it?

Their name alone .. it's just false advertising, isn't it.

How so? Ratskep is based on the idea that the scientific method leads us to truths about our observable world (i.e. rational/scientific skepticism), so how is it false advertising?

[Strontium Dog]

I'd bet good money that Rainbow gets a warning for "channeling" a banned member.

How much would you put on it?

I don't know how much "good money" is these days. I mean, obviously the money I donated to RatSkep to help get it off the ground wasn't "good money", given the way I've been treated.

Their name alone .. it's just false advertising, isn't it.

How so? Ratskep is based on the idea that the scientific method leads us to truths about our observable world (i.e. rational/scientific skepticism), so how is it false advertising?

For starters, I think the implication is that using that scientific skepticism to debunk certain viewpoints is preferable to outright banning people for holding those views.

[Mr.Samsa]

How much would you put on it?

I don't know how much "good money" is these days.

I don't really know either, but I figured it would be easy money for me to pick up if you assigned a figure to it.

I mean, obviously the money I donated to RatSkep to help get it off the ground wasn't "good money", given the way I've been treated.

Well, I suppose (unfortunately?) contributing donations to the forum doesn't confer special treatment.. You can choose to ignore this if you like, but I've never had a problem with you and I mostly enjoy your posts (whether I agree with them or not). When I was modding, I (and others) would always defend you if a report or action seemed inaccurate or unjust, and I'd like to think that I certainly wouldn't stay silent or protect any mod that blatantly abused their position to carry out a personal vendetta against you. It may be the case that you've just been the victim of some tough 50/50 calls that didn't go your way, but all I can say for certain is that all of your complaints, reports, and actions taken against you were taken as seriously and as fairly as possible. If mistakes were made, it certainly was not the result of any systematic bias, and I know that a number of mods would feel that it would be a loss to the forum to lose you (if it ever came to that).

How so? Ratskep is based on the idea that the scientific method leads us to truths about our observable world (i.e. rational/scientific skepticism), so how is it false advertising?

For starters, I think the implication is that using that scientific skepticism to debunk certain viewpoints is preferable to outright banning people for holding those views.

Scientific skepticism doesn't imply that you have to allow anything in a discussion, and given the amount of evidence that suggested that Tyrannical wasn't going to change his behavior to suit the rules of the behavior, one could argue that the empirical evidence was collected to satisfy the criteria for scientific skepticism in that decision. Tyrannical was not prevented from discussing racial issues (look at his threads on the existence of racial categories, the intelligence of blacks, etc), and he was never sanctioned for his thinly veiled racist opinions on immigration - he was only denied using RatSkep as a platform for racist promotion (e.g. linking to white nationalist websites in his signature). I never supported people when they suggested that Tyrannical should be banned and defended him on a couple of occasions, but I don't think it could be argued that the mods didn't have any grounds for banning him. Whether he agrees with the rules or not, he had enough chances to simply stick to supporting his racist arguments through (his interpretation of) logic, science, or political opinion, but instead continued to try to use RatSkep as a platform for racist promotion and propaganda.

[rachelbean]

It would be good if we could/can make a subforum to bitch about other forums so that we can choose to opt out of it...because I could definitely live without it

[Azathoth]

I thought this was the subforum to bitch about other forums

[Audley Strange]

Isn't labelling someone a Racist Troll a breach of Rat-Skep's FUA? Or was Tyrannical banned first in order to get the insults in? Classy either way.

[lordpasternack]

It would be good if we could/can make a subforum to bitch about other forums so that we can choose to opt out of it...because I could definitely live without it

You mean this subforum?

Personally, I tend to avoid the noise I don't like just by viewing my own posts, and just browsing to other forums and threads as the mood strikes.