Lying for Reason and Science

[Clinton Huxley]

You are "going to make Richard awaken from his coma" by putting comments on here? Ok.

Why is that your job?

[lordpasternack]

You are "going to make Richard awaken from his coma" by putting comments on here? Ok.

This is where I'm starting. People deserve to know. Richard deserves a wake-up call.

Why is that your job?

I was the only one quixotic enough.

[Clinton Huxley]

I don't think this is a "start", LP, I think this is a delay. Assuming you aren't just mental and there is substance to your beliefs.

[Svartalf]

Why is that your job?

I was the only one quixotic enough.

May I be Dulcineo de la Tobosa to your Quesadilla?

[Thinking Aloud]

I just prodded the RDF donations page to see where the Paypal buttons are directing users to at present. They both go to Paypal sites clearly titled "The Richard Dawkins Foundation For Science And Reason"; the Paypal email addresses used for the two accounts are paypal.uk @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (UK) and paypal @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (US). As Paypal's payment system is email-address based, it seems unlikely that either account is someone's personal account, unless one of those addresses is a personal one. As both Paypal accounts are in the RDFSR's name, it also seems unlikely that they could be overlooked in any official accounting.

[Seth]

I just prodded the RDF donations page to see where the Paypal buttons are directing users to at present. They both go to Paypal sites clearly titled "The Richard Dawkins Foundation For Science And Reason"; the Paypal email addresses used for the two accounts are paypal.uk @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (UK) and paypal @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (US). As Paypal's payment system is email-address based, it seems unlikely that either account is someone's personal account, unless one of those addresses is a personal one. As both Paypal accounts are in the RDFSR's name, it also seems unlikely that they could be overlooked in any official accounting.

Paypal accounts require direct electronic access to a BANK account for the deposit of funds. Therefore, it's entirely possible that the funds go directly to RD's personal account if that's the way he set up the bank accounts, although it's unlikely since the foundation is an established non-profit which certainly has its own bank accounts. And I agree that any jiggery-pokey with the donated funds would raise red flags given the requirements for filing tax returns to maintain tax-exempt status.

[hadespussercats]

From what I've been informed - it goes into her personal personal PayPal account. And again, I'm not convinced there's any reliable internal auditing going on at all.

One only wonders how many times Richard will have to be bitten, before he gets even just a little bit shy. And how many times he'll show utter flagrant disregard of the tacit trust that donors place in his charity, until it comes to slamming the stable door after the horse has bolted.

Who's giving you this information? Isn't this just hearsay?

[Tyrannical]

Dawkins simply isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. It makes me wonder if not for the radical atheism if anybody would take him seriously. As an evolutionary biologist he still can't see the obvious when it is in front of him, so it is no wonder he gets taken advantage of by the more clever. Hopefully before he dies he'll grow a pair and start taking evolution seriously.

[Seth]

From what I've been informed - it goes into her personal personal PayPal account. And again, I'm not convinced there's any reliable internal auditing going on at all.

One only wonders how many times Richard will have to be bitten, before he gets even just a little bit shy. And how many times he'll show utter flagrant disregard of the tacit trust that donors place in his charity, until it comes to slamming the stable door after the horse has bolted.

Who's giving you this information? Isn't this just hearsay?

And if this is true, then all she needs to do is file a complaint with the Attorney General in the state where the non-profit is registered and the IRS and it will be investigated. Simple as pie.

[Seth]

Dawkins simply isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. It makes me wonder if not for the radical atheism if anybody would take him seriously. As an evolutionary biologist he still can't see the obvious when it is in front of him, so it is no wonder he gets taken advantage of by the more clever. Hopefully before he dies he'll grow a pair and start taking evolution seriously.

Then again he's making quite a nice living off of radical religious Atheism, so he's no different than Ted Haggard in that respect. There's a sucker born every minute, and a fool and his money are soon parted.

As for me, the only money I spent on Dawkins was to buy a USED copy of The God Delusion, so he didn't get a dime from me.

[lordpasternack]

I don't think this is a "start", LP, I think this is a delay. Assuming you aren't just mental and there is substance to your beliefs.

Well, if you think it's perfectly sound to go adding yourself to video credits you never physically contributed a mouseclick to - years after the fact…

[Clinton Huxley]

Adding yourself to credits is naff but that's all it is

[lordpasternack]

I just prodded the RDF donations page to see where the Paypal buttons are directing users to at present. They both go to Paypal sites clearly titled "The Richard Dawkins Foundation For Science And Reason"; the Paypal email addresses used for the two accounts are paypal.uk @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (UK) and paypal @ richarddawkinsfoundation.org (US). As Paypal's payment system is email-address based, it seems unlikely that either account is someone's personal account, unless one of those addresses is a personal one. As both Paypal accounts are in the RDFSR's name, it also seems unlikely that they could be overlooked in any official accounting.

It's quite possible that it was once true, but has changed in the interim. And if so, I'm glad that it has.

[lordpasternack]

Adding yourself to credits is naff but that's all it is

It's can also be viewed as an instance, albeit petty - of lying through your teeth about something obvious, with no regard to basic decency and honesty.

[Clinton Huxley]

Adding yourself to credits is naff but that's all it is

It's can also be viewed as an instance, albeit petty - of lying through your teeth about something obvious, with no regard to basic decency and honesty.

bit of an extreme reaction. Its just a bit of vanity