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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Tigger » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:08 pm

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:08 pm

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Charlou wrote:
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It's not about any single event, Starr. It's about the differing philosophies of how things ought to be. That's the ongoing thing here. That's what is being criticised and discussed.
OK. I'll accept that's how you are seeing it. You have a perception about how RatSkep is moderated and you think it 'ought' to be moderated in a different way (more of a Rationalia style way). What I don't understand is why there is an 'ought' at all. I don't think there is an 'ought'. There is not one 'right way' to moderate a forum. I completely 'get' that you, personally, don't like how RatSkep is run. I just don't understand how your personal preference about how a forum is run directly transfers into how a forum 'ought' to be run.
No, you're not getting how I am seeing it. I said it's not about any single event, it's about the differring philosopies of how things ought to be. My use of 'philosophies' was intended to mean 'thinking' or 'opinion'. I wasn't talking about the differing philosophies between forums, I was talking about the differring philosophies of members within a forum. That became an issue at RDF and it appears it is an issue for RatSkep. It comes up here too. Not everyone agrees with how things are and some people want to express a controversial view about how they think things ought to be. Here they're allowed to express their ideas. My impression is that at RatSkep some people are not.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:16 pm

klr wrote:
Pappa wrote: ...

I think you should go fuck yourself you stupid fucking bitch. Kiss my Welsh arse and fuck of with your cuntish opinions. You´re so wrong it´s not even funny.
FFS Pappa ... this is way over the line. :mod:
It is .. and action is being discussed.

It takes a lot to provoke Pappa. I'm not surprised the post he quoted was it. That said, he is not above the guidelines.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by starr » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:21 pm

starr wrote:
I don't think that anyone is out to get me (are they???? :dono: ).

...

I've come over to Rationalia to discuss some issues I have with Rationalia. Where is the warmth and concern for a member of your forum who has issues with your forum and is expressing those issues on your forum? I have seen some good people that I care about personally attacked in this thread. I have seen the RatSkep staff attacked as a group in this thread. I have seen a good friend of mine ridiculed as acting 'insane' and 'beyond childish' because he decided to suspend his membership here. Is that being open and accepting criticism of your forum?
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by devogue » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:25 pm

Starr - Pappa doesn't speak for everyone here. It's clear that many people here disagree with you profoundly, and things have got rather heated over the past three or four pages - I apologise for any sharpness on my part.

Please reconsider your request - just like any other member here, Pappa will face the music. Don't chuck it all in here just because of one post in one thread.

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by 95Theses » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:29 pm

Well this is certainly an interesting and novel new way to moderate criticism of the board you are an admin at, but probably not one I will advocate elsewhere.

I'm done, if the response to criticism that you feel is unfair or wrong is for the board admin to tell the member complaining to 'Go Fuck yourself you stupid bitch' clearly you have less, not more tolerance for criticism than RatSkep. Sure you'll all claim that he was speaking in a private capacity, but as the admin he makes the rules, he should be able to abide by them however he is speaking.

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:30 pm

starr wrote:Please suspend my membership here.
I'll do so. If you change your mind, please email us and you'll be welcome to return.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by klr » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:32 pm

95Theses wrote:Well this is certainly an interesting and novel new way to moderate criticism of the board you are an admin at, but probably not one I will advocate elsewhere.

I'm done, if the response to criticism that you feel is unfair or wrong is for the board admin to tell the member complaining to 'Go Fuck yourself you stupid bitch' clearly you have less, not more tolerance for criticism than RatSkep. Sure you'll all claim that he was speaking in a private capacity, but as the admin he makes the rules, he should be able to abide by them however he is speaking.

This is a joke, I'm out.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Tigger » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:36 pm

95Theses wrote:Well this is certainly an interesting and novel new way to moderate criticism of the board you are an admin at, but probably not one I will advocate elsewhere.

I'm done, if the response to criticism that you feel is unfair or wrong is for the board admin to tell the member complaining to 'Go Fuck yourself you stupid bitch' clearly you have less, not more tolerance for criticism than RatSkep. Sure you'll all claim that he was speaking in a private capacity, but as the admin he makes the rules, he should be able to abide by them however he is speaking.

This is a joke, I'm out.
As an admin he doesn't make the rules, they are discussed with the membership. Less tolerance for criticism? A lot of this thread isn't criticism, but bullshit. Notice, please that no-one here has been banned, nor have any threads been locked. Nor will they.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by devogue » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:37 pm

95Theses wrote:Well this is certainly an interesting and novel new way to moderate criticism of the board you are an admin at, but probably not one I will advocate elsewhere.

I'm done, if the response to criticism that you feel is unfair or wrong is for the board admin to tell the member complaining to 'Go Fuck yourself you stupid bitch' clearly you have less, not more tolerance for criticism than RatSkep. Sure you'll all claim that he was speaking in a private capacity, but as the admin he makes the rules, he should be able to abide by them however he is speaking.

This is a joke, I'm out.
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He doesn't make the rules, but he is subject to them. If he faced no consequences then your claims about tolerance would hold water. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of members here will view Pappa's remarks with shock and they will disassociate themselves completely - he may be the board admin, but there is no single voice for Rationalia.

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Tigger » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:39 pm

It's being dealt with now.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:47 pm

Pappa has been suspended for 24 hours for his breach of our guidelines.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by 95Theses » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:58 pm

Perhaps we need to start a thread over at RatSkep so that people who don't like the way this board is run can feel free to express that opinion without being called a stupid bitch and told to fuck off by the Admin then?
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Tigger » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:59 pm

95Theses wrote:Perhaps we need to start a thread over at RatSkep so that people who don't like the way this board is run can feel free to express that opinion without being called a stupid bitch and told to fuck off by the Admin then?
You really think a thread like that would fly for 35 pages? :funny:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by 95Theses » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:01 pm

Tigger wrote:
95Theses wrote:Perhaps we need to start a thread over at RatSkep so that people who don't like the way this board is run can feel free to express that opinion without being called a stupid bitch and told to fuck off by the Admin then?
You really think a thread like that would fly for 35 pages? :funny:
No, because the membership over there doesn't share the morbid fascination with this place that some here have for RatSkep.
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