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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:45 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:I think you do, or you wouldn't get so whiney and wound up. You care heaps.
I also leave for weeks, months at a time I simply come and go as I please.
But that's when you go on your drunken benders. I assume you have to write yourself off for periods so you can deal with all the hateful cunt lovers in the world.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:05 am

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rEvolutionist wrote: That's true. But when you look at CEO's and upper management positions where there isn't a more set wage, females simply are getting paid less for the same type of work. It's obviously coz they are stupider.
If you are shit a negotiating your worth to the company that is not societies fault. Pray tell why I should give a shit how much some sociopath CEO earns as they don't give a fuck about me (or anybody else for that matter) but themselves.
Red herring. The point is that there are clear cases of female pay disparity in private companies without set wages. You claim it is "shit negotiating". Occam's razor says it's much more likely that women are still discriminated against in some areas as they have traditionally been discriminated against for most of our social history.
Not so, their salary is negotiable so fucking negotiate end of, fuck if I'm going to feel sorry for some poor CEO who earns a few million less then other selfish cunts who play hard ball when it comes to their salary. I'm not going to be opening food banks for destitute CEOs anytime soon, fuck them all. It's capitalism so you better work bitch.

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:41 am

Red herring, again.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:26 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:I think you do, or you wouldn't get so whiney and wound up. You care heaps.
I also leave for weeks, months at a time I simply come and go as I please.
But that's when you go on your drunken benders. I assume you have to write yourself off for periods so you can deal with all the hateful cunt lovers in the world.
I have never been on a bender in my life, even on holiday, I just get fed up with the Internet and read a few books in my spare time.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:39 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Red herring, again.
Red herring my arse. Lol, is that the hill you want to die on, what genitalia the 1% have. :lol: The same people who would throw you out of your house and make you homeless so they can build a second helicopter pad for their pet goldfish. :D You go grrrl. :smoke:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:44 am

It's still a red herring, David. Learn how to debate.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:51 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:I usually post drunk.
Heh.

Really, rEv, don't you feel a little silly to argue with a drunken man?
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:14 am

He doesn't drink, Herm. Shirley there's shum mishtake here!
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:02 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
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JimC wrote:
However, this would be for a variety of reasons, mainly to do with what sort of jobs are on average done by either sex. In regulated industries with industrial awards, I'm sure you would see the same as in Oz, in that people doing the same work (e.g. teaching) get precisely the same wage.
That's true. But when you look at CEO's and upper management positions where there isn't a more set wage, females simply are getting paid less for the same type of work. It's obviously coz they are stupider.
If you are shit a negotiating your worth to the company that is not societies fault. Pray tell why I should give a shit how much some sociopath CEO earns as they don't give a fuck about me (or anybody else for that matter) but themselves.
Red herring. The point is that there are clear cases of female pay disparity in private companies without set wages. You claim it is "shit negotiating". Occam's razor says it's much more likely that women are still discriminated against in some areas as they have traditionally been discriminated against for most of our social history.[/quote]

There are "cases" of female pay disparity in private companies (and in government employment, too) without set wages (and with set wages). Sometimes a woman is paid less than a man. But, there are also cases of men being paid less than other men, and men being paid less than women.

The data, however, today is that there is no real difference when comparing like jobs to like jobs.

When I was a young pup, I was hired at the same time as another guy who graduated my same school. He had about the same GPA as me, and the same degree. We were the same age, and neither of us had any experience at all. We were both new hires. I discovered that I was paid 20% more than him. You know why? They needed me, and when they made me an offer I came back to them and said I needed more money because I had another offer. They met my salary demand.

Occam's Razor doesn't apply here, because neither explanation offered -- that any disparity is not as a result of sex discrimination vs. disparity is a result of sex discrimination - is more complex than the other. Occam's Razor is a rule of thumb, not an argument.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:47 am

Gaah. Been over this before earlier in the thread. The data has been presented comparing like for like jobs. You can disagree with the data, but don't pretend that it hasn't been presented.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:51 am

Hermit wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:I usually post drunk.
Heh.

Really, rEv, don't you feel a little silly to argue with a drunken man?
Don't equivocate, I said I don't go on benders so unless going on benders just means drinking in Aussie land then what's your point?
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:14 am

What's YOUR point, David? Should we be taking you serious or as a mental retard?
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:22 am

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