Jesus fucking Christ seriously. Lets wait a few months and check out that hypothesis shall we.rEvolutionist wrote:It's not murder if it's not an independent life.DaveDodo007 wrote:That is a cop out, If the mothers life is in danger the baby will die anyway so no argument there. In the case of rape the compassion argument that the victim should not suffer the trauma for another nine months so compassion applies. If there are psychological/mental heath reasons then compassion over rides the life of the fetus. Tough call but anything else is just murder.JimC wrote:If done post-partum, then the term makes sense. The further back in a pregnancy you go, the less sense it makes. The nutters apply it to abortion at any time whatsoever, which is why its use has the risk of tarring oneself with a rather unpleasant brush...DaveDodo007 wrote:What do you suggest, lovingly terminated, cuddled to death with surgical instruments. I'm all ears/eyes.JimC wrote:The term "murdered babies" is used as an emotional hook by the (typically) religious fanatics that picket abortion clinics. Not helpful, IMO...
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We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
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Bullshit, there is yet another thread about abortion in progress, and there are three or four idiot pro lifers posting in it. No censor in sight.
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So it's hypothetical murder?.... Umm, ok.DaveDodo007 wrote:Jesus fucking Christ seriously. Lets wait a few months and check out that hypothesis shall we.rEvolutionist wrote:It's not murder if it's not an independent life.DaveDodo007 wrote:That is a cop out, If the mothers life is in danger the baby will die anyway so no argument there. In the case of rape the compassion argument that the victim should not suffer the trauma for another nine months so compassion applies. If there are psychological/mental heath reasons then compassion over rides the life of the fetus. Tough call but anything else is just murder.JimC wrote:If done post-partum, then the term makes sense. The further back in a pregnancy you go, the less sense it makes. The nutters apply it to abortion at any time whatsoever, which is why its use has the risk of tarring oneself with a rather unpleasant brush...DaveDodo007 wrote:
What do you suggest, lovingly terminated, cuddled to death with surgical instruments. I'm all ears/eyes.
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And so it is. Apologies for quoting the wrong post with mine. I meant to recommend resuming the discussion about abortion in one of the several already existing threads on the topic, and helpfully provided a link to one of them.DaveDodo007 wrote:How about this is a thread on Rationalskepiticism...Hermit wrote:Good. Why don't you start a thread about it? Or better still, why don't you bump one of the over a dozen already existing ones on that topic? This one looks suitable.DaveDodo007 wrote:I can I'm just doing it over here.Scott1328 wrote:I guess so, it's too bad you can't be there to shine the light of true righteousness on their black hearts.
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Glad to see you're not biased then.Scott1328 wrote:Bullshit, there is yet another thread about abortion in progress, and there are three or four idiot pro lifers posting in it. No censor in sight.

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What's hypothetical about it?rEvolutionist wrote: Snip.
So it's hypothetical murder?.... Umm, ok.
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You said we have to wait a few months for it to be life. So it must be hypothetical murder.
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Not bias, just relating facts: those pro lifers in that thread are idiots.DaveDodo007 wrote:Glad to see you're not biased then.Scott1328 wrote:Bullshit, there is yet another thread about abortion in progress, and there are three or four idiot pro lifers posting in it. No censor in sight.
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Re: Rationalskepiticism,lol.
Yes, they're idiots, but at least they stand for something other than lying, smearing and spreading hatred and lies.
I'd take idiots over lying, freedom-hating fascist vermin any day of the week.
I'd take idiots over lying, freedom-hating fascist vermin any day of the week.
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Who might you be referring to?Strontium Dog wrote:Yes, they're idiots, but at least they stand for something other than lying, smearing and spreading hatred and lies.
I'd take idiots over lying, freedom-hating fascist vermin any day of the week.
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He only ever talks about himself.Svartalf wrote:Who might you be referring to?Strontium Dog wrote:Yes, they're idiots, but at least they stand for something other than lying, smearing and spreading hatred and lies.
I'd take idiots over lying, freedom-hating fascist vermin any day of the week.
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Obviously not me.Svartalf wrote:Who might you be referring to?Strontium Dog wrote:Yes, they're idiots, but at least they stand for something other than lying, smearing and spreading hatred and lies.
I'd take idiots over lying, freedom-hating fascist vermin any day of the week.
People like Scott392831293843294823, perhaps.
Meanwhile, let's interlude with the Officlal RatSkep Joke:
Q: What's the difference between RatSkep and a gang rape?
A: At gang rapes, the police don't usually stand round egging on the perpetrators.
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Some ideas deserve to be raped. Most notably yours.
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As long as the ideas are being raped, and not the person, all will be well...rEvolutionist wrote:Some ideas deserve to be raped. Most notably yours.

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