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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:52 pm

Golly, I didn't mean to spin it out like that.
these are things we think we know
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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Robert_S » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

Badger3k wrote: I agree - "just get over it" is dismissive and not in the spirit of what we are saying. However, I think that sometimes "just get over it" can be appropriate. It depends on the situation and context, though. I am not sure if that is the appropriate response to, say, finding a t-shirt dehumanizing. On the one hand, it seems trivial. On the other, it could be a sign of deep personal problems that the individual needs to get professional help for. :dunno: anymore.
Context may have had something to do with the T-shirt thing. What if I wore a shirt to a Ratz meet saying I was not "A Ratz" but "Just a poster on a forum"? What if I did so after a falling out with someone I had been close to. I could see an emotional reaction happening that would be hard to explain.

That's one thing about that one thread, it's really hard to explain. I tried to explain this whole thing to someone I work with. It kinda fell flat.

So maybe the feelings over the T-shirt were fairly normal. Still, that's not what a person may wish to put out there on a blog where, presumably, they wish to counter the stereotype of women as over-emotional.

Hell, I cry listening to Iris DeMent, Emmylou Harris and sometimes Lucinda Williams. Lucinda usually gives me happy yearning feeling!
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Azathoth » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:05 pm

Did I miss all the dramaz?

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Post by Robert_S » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:13 pm

Pappa raped all the Elder Gods while you were out!
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Azathoth » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:16 pm

That must have chafed a bit some of them are quite spikey
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:17 pm

Azathoth wrote:That must have chafed a bit some of them are quite spikey
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Post by Jason » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:53 pm

There's nothing like chafed cock skin.

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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Badger3k » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:01 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Badger3k wrote: I agree - "just get over it" is dismissive and not in the spirit of what we are saying. However, I think that sometimes "just get over it" can be appropriate. It depends on the situation and context, though. I am not sure if that is the appropriate response to, say, finding a t-shirt dehumanizing. On the one hand, it seems trivial. On the other, it could be a sign of deep personal problems that the individual needs to get professional help for. :dunno: anymore.
Context may have had something to do with the T-shirt thing. What if I wore a shirt to a Ratz meet saying I was not "A Ratz" but "Just a poster on a forum"? What if I did so after a falling out with someone I had been close to. I could see an emotional reaction happening that would be hard to explain.

That's one thing about that one thread, it's really hard to explain. I tried to explain this whole thing to someone I work with. It kinda fell flat.

So maybe the feelings over the T-shirt were fairly normal. Still, that's not what a person may wish to put out there on a blog where, presumably, they wish to counter the stereotype of women as over-emotional.

Hell, I cry listening to Iris DeMent, Emmylou Harris and sometimes Lucinda Williams. Lucinda usually gives me happy yearning feeling!
Agreed with the third paragraph especially - it's hard to portray yourself as a strong person when a t-shirt makes you cry. Kind of sends mixed messages. Crying is ok, crying over something that looks trivial to most people...a bit harder.

I cry over Justin Bieber and One Direction, but that's usually caused by vomiting too much. :biggrin:

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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Badger3k » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:02 pm

PordFrefect wrote:There's nothing like chafed cock skin.
With a fine chianti?

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Post by Jason » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:52 am

Badger3k wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:There's nothing like chafed cock skin.
With a fine chianti?
Mm.. yes served with fava beans. :food:

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Post by Wumbologist » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:25 am

PordFrefect wrote:
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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by JimC » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:25 am

Audley Strange wrote:My politics have fuck all to do with my disbelief in Gods. I needed no one to "lead" me to it, I need no figureheads or leaders or role models. Any skeptic or atheist movement needs to remain political neutral. To let ideological propagandists in, whether they be feminists, separatists, socialists, liberals, libertarians or totalitarians does not matter. It is an attempt to usurp a single simple message.

I don't accept that your fantasy beliefs in the Cosmic Monkey should affect me or be influential in politics.

If we allow that message to be sullied by political pandering, considered an offshoot of a political group and we will turn off a great proportion of potential support and end up infighting.


Oh wait some fucking idiot has been doing exactly that for about 18 months.
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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by hadespussercats » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:30 am

I told my husband today that "PZ Myers thinks everyone on our forum are cockroaches, slimepit denizens, and troglodytes that deserve to be cut loose from the atheist community."

"He sounds like a jackass."

A little later, getting dinner ready:
"Wait a minute-- who the hell is PK Myers?!"

"PZ."

"Whatever."
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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:31 am

hadespussercats wrote:I told my husband today that "PZ Myers thinks everyone on our forum are cockroaches, slimepit denizens, and troglodytes that deserve to be cut loose from the atheist community."

"He sounds like a jackass."

A little later, getting dinner ready:
"Wait a minute-- who the hell is PK Myers?!"

"PZ."

"Whatever."
:whisper: He's secretly famous!
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P

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Re: Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

Post by Jason » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:31 am

:hehe: Obscurity is the greatest insult to these types. :tup:

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