A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

[JimC]

responding to tatt

my reason for disliking that other rats what ever the hell they're called is cause I can't even fart an opinion without getting reported. WHat is their frekn problem? It's like talking with a bunch of 5 yr olds!

What, not allowing racist sexist homophobic bigoted opinion is acting like "5 yr olds" is it?

It's not acting like five year olds, but it is treating everybody like five year olds.

Fair point, TMH...

BTW, have you had your nap today?

[pErvinalia]

responding to tatt

my reason for disliking that other rats what ever the hell they're called is cause I can't even fart an opinion without getting reported. WHat is their frekn problem? It's like talking with a bunch of 5 yr olds!

What, not allowing racist sexist homophobic bigoted opinion is acting like "5 yr olds" is it?

It's not acting like five year olds, but it is treating everybody like five year olds.

Man, it's parochial over here... Shifting the goal posts eh?

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

[pErvinalia]

responding to tatt

my reason for disliking that other rats what ever the hell they're called is cause I can't even fart an opinion without getting reported. WHat is their frekn problem? It's like talking with a bunch of 5 yr olds!

What, not allowing racist sexist homophobic bigoted opinion is acting like "5 yr olds" is it?

It's not acting like five year olds, but it is treating everybody like five year olds.

Fair point, TMH...

BTW, have you had your nap today?

[JimC]

responding to tatt

my reason for disliking that other rats what ever the hell they're called is cause I can't even fart an opinion without getting reported. WHat is their frekn problem? It's like talking with a bunch of 5 yr olds!

What, not allowing racist sexist homophobic bigoted opinion is acting like "5 yr olds" is it?

It's not acting like five year olds, but it is treating everybody like five year olds.

Man, it's parochial over here... Shifting the goal posts eh?

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

The key point is, that here, they are met by rational debate (and usually trenchant criticism) rather than the ban hammer...

There's this little thing called freedom of speech...

[Hermit]

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

The key point is, that here, they are met by rational debate (and usually trenchant criticism) rather than the ban hammer...

There's this little thing called freedom of speech...

"But the laws in Germany blah blah blah..."

[charlou]

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

The key point is, that here, they are met by rational debate (and usually trenchant criticism) rather than the ban hammer...

There's this little thing called freedom of speech...

Yes, over there he couldn't call such groups 'pieces of shit', for a start ... which is what this is all about, it seems.

[Robert_S]

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

The key point is, that here, they are met by rational debate (and usually trenchant criticism) rather than the ban hammer...

There's this little thing called freedom of speech...

Yes, over there he couldn't call such groups 'pieces of shit', for a start ... which is what this is all about, it seems.

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

[leo-rcc]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

[charlou]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

Certainly worked well enough when 1000 or so new members turned up in February.

[JimC]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

Certainly worked well enough when 1000 or so new members turned up in February.

Of course, it drove all the staff temporarily insane...




Well, with some it was temporary...

[Robert_S]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

Certainly worked well enough when 1000 or so new members turned up in February.

When we all turned up then, we mostly kept to one section and most of us went over to get RatSkep started before too long. I did too, but then I came back after a while because I liked the atmosphere and the Ubuntu theme.

With more mods and more delegation, you're getting more complexity and eventually you'll need one rule and then another... Once you don't have a situation where just about everybody knows everybody, it gets qualitatively different.

[JimC]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

Certainly worked well enough when 1000 or so new members turned up in February.

When we all turned up then, we mostly kept to one section and most of us went over to get RatSkep started before too long. I did too, but then I came back after a while because I liked the atmosphere and the Ubuntu theme.

With more mods and more delegation, you're getting more complexity and eventually you'll need one rule and then another... Once you don't have a situation where just about everybody knows everybody, it gets qualitatively different.

I agree with you to an extent, that size has its effects...

Right now, our regularly posting members are around the village size, with the dynamic that implies...

However, it is also a village that has made a conscious decision for a particular style of social interaction, and I think we can hold to that for a forseeable rise in the village population...

[Robert_S]

I'm actually sympathetic to RatSkeps's need for a stricter style of moderation. When you have a larger group of posters, you're going to attract a great many more troublesome ones. Here, it is easier to take things on a case-by-case basis and apply some creativity to each situation. I don't know if it would be quite the same with a higher volume.

It wouldn't, because rather than change the rules, we'd ask for more mods and delegate the tasks more.

Certainly worked well enough when 1000 or so new members turned up in February.

When we all turned up then, we mostly kept to one section and most of us went over to get RatSkep started before too long. I did too, but then I came back after a while because I liked the atmosphere and the Ubuntu theme.

With more mods and more delegation, you're getting more complexity and eventually you'll need one rule and then another... Once you don't have a situation where just about everybody knows everybody, it gets qualitatively different.

I agree with you to an extent, that size has its effects...

Right now, our regularly posting members are around the village size, with the dynamic that implies...

However, it is also a village that has made a conscious decision for a particular style of social interaction, and I think we can hold to that for a forseeable rise in the village population...

How big is "foreseeable"? I think this forum could grow quite a bit, but it would lose something if the traffic was at say.. 2,350 posts per day for example. It wouldn't be simultaneously cozy and roomy like it is now. I think that would have a tangible effect over time.

[JimC]

It's interesting, Robert. After the big surge, and the subsequent settling, there seems to be a steady, moderate growth in new posters, many of whom remain in a kind of newbie limbo....

The number that break out into becoming a real part of this community is consistently a small proportion of those...

The current growth rate seems supportable for a while without affecting us too much...

I may be a drooling, gibbering wreck in a nursing home before the number crunch affects our modding style...

As long as the nurses can supply me with gin, I will have the energy to be a staff member of Ratz...

[pErvinalia]

responding to tatt

my reason for disliking that other rats what ever the hell they're called is cause I can't even fart an opinion without getting reported. WHat is their frekn problem? It's like talking with a bunch of 5 yr olds!

What, not allowing racist sexist homophobic bigoted opinion is acting like "5 yr olds" is it?

It's not acting like five year olds, but it is treating everybody like five year olds.

Man, it's parochial over here... Shifting the goal posts eh?

And by the way, racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots deserve to be treated like the pieces of shit they are.

The key point is, that here, they are met by rational debate (and usually trenchant criticism) rather than the ban hammer...

Good for you. We don't suffer idiots and bigots over there.

There's this little thing called freedom of speech...

Sure there is... Has there ever been a more inaccurately named piece of legislation?