Rationalskepiticism,lol.

[pErvinalia]

I'm tired.

Surely we can agree that the vast majority of humans seek to feel good as opposed to bad, right? So can't we nearly objectively say that making someone feel bad is undesirable? That's what I am getting at in as few words as humanly possible.

Is that a white flag as I only accept unconditional surrender.

Well I presented an argument. You can address that if you like.

I was being flippant, we are still on Rationalia after all.

To be honest, I'm glad you didn't address it. I'm so fucking tired. Not up for much debating.

[JimC]

We have a reasonably good minimum wage here, so they can't actually pay them less.

As I said, this isn't a problem with asylum seekers. It's a problem with greedy capitalism.

and how many immigrates are doing very dangerous jobs in shitty conditions with little or no health and safety around whilst they should be paying higher wages with better working conditions? Immigration doesn't only harm the the lower class of any country It also harms the the country they left. As in the most skillful and the most resourceful leave the country that needs them the most to work in the lower tries in countries which could simply educate its own population to fill the necessary gaps in the work force.

We have good work conditions here that are mandated by law (although the current bunch of conservative cunts are doing their best to undo that).

It really depends on what you are talkoing about. Immigration - sure, limit it. I don't think the gov should be loosening the requirements on "457 visas" while our unemployment rate is so relatively high. Asylum seekers are a different issue.

I'm not even anti-immigration and especially not against asylum seekers, my point was you were smearing all the anti-immigration side with the racist tag. Some are racist and if that's their reason they should be called on it but this tactic has been used too successfully to quell all descent for too long. There are legitimate reasons to be anti-immigration and their voices need to be heard.

Instead of "anti-immigration", perhaps the more neutral term of being in favour of restrictions on the number of immigrants. If that restriction is applied without any racial or ethnic bias, then it is a reasonable position. I want to see population growth in Australia restricted for environmental reasons, and limits on immigration numbers is a legitimate part of such a policy. The degree of restriction is then up for argument.

[DaveDodo007]

We have a reasonably good minimum wage here, so they can't actually pay them less.

As I said, this isn't a problem with asylum seekers. It's a problem with greedy capitalism.

and how many immigrates are doing very dangerous jobs in shitty conditions with little or no health and safety around whilst they should be paying higher wages with better working conditions? Immigration doesn't only harm the the lower class of any country It also harms the the country they left. As in the most skillful and the most resourceful leave the country that needs them the most to work in the lower tries in countries which could simply educate its own population to fill the necessary gaps in the work force.

We have good work conditions here that are mandated by law (although the current bunch of conservative cunts are doing their best to undo that).

It really depends on what you are talkoing about. Immigration - sure, limit it. I don't think the gov should be loosening the requirements on "457 visas" while our unemployment rate is so relatively high. Asylum seekers are a different issue.

I'm not even anti-immigration and especially not against asylum seekers, my point was you were smearing all the anti-immigration side with the racist tag. Some are racist and if that's their reason they should be called on it but this tactic has been used too successfully to quell all descent for too long. There are legitimate reasons to be anti-immigration and their voices need to be heard.

Instead of "anti-immigration", perhaps the more neutral term of being in favour of restrictions on the number of immigrants. If that restriction is applied without any racial or ethnic bias, then it is a reasonable position. I want to see population growth in Australia restricted for environmental reasons, and limits on immigration numbers is a legitimate part of such a policy. The degree of restriction is then up for argument.

Racist.

[DaveDodo007]

Ratskep mods are worse than Hitler, come on people don't let my thread die as I'm fed up with being the thread killer.

[pErvinalia]

Don't worry. It'll pick up again. Go and get yourself suspended again and then have a spew about it here.

[Scott1328]

Samsa is already agitating again

[pErvinalia]

Awesome! I'm heading over there soon to watch.

[DaveDodo007]

Don't worry. It'll pick up again. Go and get yourself suspended again and then have a spew about it here.

I wish someone would just bump my MGTOW post just to let them know 'I'll be back.'

[Scott1328]

Awesome! I'm heading over there soon to watch.

It's in the feedback thread so there would be no possible way you could see it.

[DaveDodo007]

Samsa is already agitating again

Where?, What thread?

[DaveDodo007]

Awesome! I'm heading over there soon to watch.

It's in the feedback thread so there would be no possible way you could see it.

Bollox.

[pErvinalia]

Awesome! I'm heading over there soon to watch.

It's in the feedback thread so there would be no possible way you could see it.

Of course, you are right. There is absolutely no way I could view feedback threads...

[DaveDodo007]

Awesome! I'm heading over there soon to watch.

It's in the feedback thread so there would be no possible way you could see it.

Of course, you are right. There is absolutely no way I could view feedback threads...

Teach me, o master.

[pErvinalia]

You have much to learn, Grasshopper.

[Scott1328]

And now SD has chimed in in full persecution complex mode