Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

[DaveDodo007]

What views represent the typical feminist?

"man hating is an honourable and viable political act"?
"put men in concentratio camps"?
"reduce male population to the 10%"?
"castration day"?
et cetera

Is that your view of the typical feminist as well?

Are they being called out on it, otherwise it looks like feminism doesn't have a problem with these quotes?

[DaveDodo007]

What views represent the typical feminist?

I don't know. What do you think they are, or might be?

You don't know the ideological values you are supporting.

[DaveDodo007]

Is there such a thing as a typical feminist? Or are we extracting general principles from a heuristic analysis of all known faces of feminism?

I'd like to think that power-parity is the common principle in all but the most extreme brands of feminism - not power-equality, but parity that acknowledges, celebrates, and operates within the boundaries of our sexual differences.

If it doesn't adhere to certain principles them what gives?

[DaveDodo007]

What views represent the typical feminist?

Remember, we're talking "typical feminist according to Dave the Dodo..."

The question still stands.

Do you mean a question in general, or do you mean the question to be specific to that misogynist cartoon?

Show me what is misogynistic about the cartoon, if anything it seems to be very misardric?

[DaveDodo007]

This is, of course, a far more balanced and nuanced view than Dave the Dodo's rants.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you. Boys falling behind in education? Do you have a opinion on that? Young men losing their right of due process at university. An accusation is as good as a guilty verdict, seriously, witch trails, do you really support this? No role models in education for young lads? How about that JimC? Demonize me all you want but what is your opinion on boys and young men being demonize because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone yey judged on the very characteristics they had no say in? This seems common in education and these viewpoints I find worrying and so should the parents? these opinions are seriously worrying me and the same goes for a lot of parents. I want an answer to this and I expect you to be involved in a back an forth. Otherwise I am going to highlight this discussion and tell Australia parents whats going on.

[Hermit]

How many prominent feminists saying this, I can provide quotes? Do you need before you accept this is feminist dogma? Does your anecdotal evidence in knowing one feminist who doesn't think this way prove your delusion, if so you may have missed the point of the comic.

It's not a matter of what prominent feministsts say. I asked for evidence that this is the sort of thing typical feminists say:

"man hating is an honourable and viable political act"
"put men in concentratio camps"
"reduce male population to the 10%"
"castration day"

[Brian Peacock]

What views represent the typical feminist?

I don't know. What do you think they are, or might be?

You don't know the ideological values you are supporting.

That's generalising from the particular again, which as you should know by now is fallacious.

[JimC]

This is, of course, a far more balanced and nuanced view than Dave the Dodo's rants.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you. Boys falling behind in education? Do you have a opinion on that? Young men losing their right of due process at university. An accusation is as good as a guilty verdict, seriously, witch trails, do you really support this? No role models in education for young lads? How about that JimC? Demonize me all you want but what is your opinion on boys and young men being demonize because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone yey judged on the very characteristics they had no say in? This seems common in education and these viewpoints I find worrying and so should the parents? these opinions are seriously worrying me and the same goes for a lot of parents. I want an answer to this and I expect you to be involved in a back an forth. Otherwise I am going to highlight this discussion and tell Australia parents whats going on.

None of these apply in Oz. Males still outnumber females in the University courses such as medicine, law, economics and engineering that lead to highly paid professions. Boy's education is a widely discussed topic, and in fact is a major impetus in course design at the boy's school I teach at, where much of the teaching styles are designed to work with the strengths boys typically bring, and address potential weaknesses such as essay writing skills. This works well, and is unaffected by the fact that half our staff are female. (Our main woodwork teacher is a woman...). Your rubbish comments about "young men being demonize (sic) because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone " are so out of touch with the educational reality I am immersed in that I can only conclude you are talking about a very alien culture indeed, perhaps one you have imagined...

Someone else in this thread made a good analogy; your judgement of feminism in general based on the pronouncements of a few extremists is the same as judging christianity as a whole on the rantings of US evangelists as they blame Hurricane Katrina on God's vengeance against gays, and any number of similar, media-grabbing statements and actions. A very unwise generalisation indeed...

[DaveDodo007]

This is, of course, a far more balanced and nuanced view than Dave the Dodo's rants.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you. Boys falling behind in education? Do you have a opinion on that? Young men losing their right of due process at university. An accusation is as good as a guilty verdict, seriously, witch trails, do you really support this? No role models in education for young lads? How about that JimC? Demonize me all you want but what is your opinion on boys and young men being demonize because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone yey judged on the very characteristics they had no say in? This seems common in education and these viewpoints I find worrying and so should the parents? these opinions are seriously worrying me and the same goes for a lot of parents. I want an answer to this and I expect you to be involved in a back an forth. Otherwise I am going to highlight this discussion and tell Australia parents whats going on.

None of these apply in Oz. Males still outnumber females in the University courses such as medicine, law, economics and engineering that lead to highly paid professions. Boy's education is a widely discussed topic, and in fact is a major impetus in course design at the boy's school I teach at, where much of the teaching styles are designed to work with the strengths boys typically bring, and address potential weaknesses such as essay writing skills. This works well, and is unaffected by the fact that half our staff are female. (Our main woodwork teacher is a woman...). Your rubbish comments about "young men being demonize (sic) because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone " are so out of touch with the educational reality I am immersed in that I can only conclude you are talking about a very alien culture indeed, perhaps one you have imagined...

Someone else in this thread made a good analogy; your judgement of feminism in general based on the pronouncements of a few extremists is the same as judging christianity as a whole on the rantings of US evangelists as they blame Hurricane Katrina on God's vengeance against gays, and any number of similar, media-grabbing statements and actions. A very unwise generalisation indeed...

I'm checking out your claims as I type this and if they are true then all well and good. Though you still can't help yourself in defending the man hating cult that is feminism. Your analogy with anti-feminists aka Katrina is laughable as you don't get more anti-science then feminism. Or do you believe that sex differences are a social construct as I would like to see the evidence for this claim.

[DaveDodo007]

This is, of course, a far more balanced and nuanced view than Dave the Dodo's rants.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you. Boys falling behind in education? Do you have a opinion on that? Young men losing their right of due process at university. An accusation is as good as a guilty verdict, seriously, witch trails, do you really support this? No role models in education for young lads? How about that JimC? Demonize me all you want but what is your opinion on boys and young men being demonize because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone yey judged on the very characteristics they had no say in? This seems common in education and these viewpoints I find worrying and so should the parents? these opinions are seriously worrying me and the same goes for a lot of parents. I want an answer to this and I expect you to be involved in a back an forth. Otherwise I am going to highlight this discussion and tell Australia parents whats going on.

None of these apply in Oz. Males still outnumber females in the University courses such as medicine, law, economics and engineering that lead to highly paid professions. Boy's education is a widely discussed topic, and in fact is a major impetus in course design at the boy's school I teach at, where much of the teaching styles are designed to work with the strengths boys typically bring, and address potential weaknesses such as essay writing skills. This works well, and is unaffected by the fact that half our staff are female. (Our main woodwork teacher is a woman...). Your rubbish comments about "young men being demonize (sic) because they are male, toxic masculinity or toxic testosterone " are so out of touch with the educational reality I am immersed in that I can only conclude you are talking about a very alien culture indeed, perhaps one you have imagined...

Someone else in this thread made a good analogy; your judgement of feminism in general based on the pronouncements of a few extremists is the same as judging christianity as a whole on the rantings of US evangelists as they blame Hurricane Katrina on God's vengeance against gays, and any number of similar, media-grabbing statements and actions. A very unwise generalisation indeed...

Erm....

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fight ... kn7an.html

WTF.

[JimC]

Already answered this one. A very minor little eruption of feminist theory indeed, and without any of the over the top stuff in any case...

[Brian Peacock]

Grolsch, don't be bolshi. That's a boy's job. Evolution decides it.

[DaveDodo007]

Lol, turns out that another youtube feminist was just trying to get into the pants of a feminist. This is on the back of many male feminists who turned out to be kiddie fiddlers along with rapists male feminists. I'm beginning to believe the only reason male feminists exist (there is no rational reason) is because they have skeletons in the closet.

https://twitter.com/JJTalkz/status/663122453347086337

Feminism, where perverts go for (atheist) redemption.

[Scot Dutchy]

What weird countries some of you live in.

[DaveDodo007]

What views represent the typical feminist?

I don't know. What do you think they are, or might be?

You don't know the ideological values you are supporting.

That's generalising from the particular again, which as you should know by now is fallacious.

How so? I'm I not suppose to take their comments at face value?