Sixty-two posts since Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:08 amvjohn82 wrote:4373 posts since Jan 2011.
Says it all.
Says fuck-all about anything, either one.
Dawkins sued for libel
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Says fuck-all about anything, either one.
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
© 2013/2014/2015/2016 Seth, all rights reserved. No reuse, republication, duplication, or derivative work is authorized.
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Yes, responding to your shite... I won't change your mind so now I won't bother.
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
Promise?vjohn82 wrote:Yes, responding to your shite... I won't change your mind so now I won't bother.
I, however, will continue to respond to your (McG-related) shite for as long as you continue to deny your responsibility for wrongfully involving children in your vendetta against Mr. McGrath.
I'll be interested to see if you have any actual interest in being a participating member of this forum or if, as I suspect, you just dropped in here to troll for some sympathy.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
© 2013/2014/2015/2016 Seth, all rights reserved. No reuse, republication, duplication, or derivative work is authorized.
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
© 2013/2014/2015/2016 Seth, all rights reserved. No reuse, republication, duplication, or derivative work is authorized.
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
This is a media and hearing summary of the case: http://vjohn82libelcase.blogspot.com/2011/11/media.html
Feel free to read and comment (Seth can read, comment and generally spout abuse).
Judgment expected sometime in January.
Feel free to read and comment (Seth can read, comment and generally spout abuse).
Judgment expected sometime in January.
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
Still no judgment yet.
Seth, it seems, has made a new friend
Seth, it seems, has made a new friend
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
Judgment given: Case struck out, no futher info available. More will follow later I expect.
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Re: Dawkins sued for libel
Struck out, meaning thrown out of court for insufficient grounds or some such?
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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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'Struck out' means it was indeed thrown out; as for the grounds I don't know. That's all that is available until the judgement is published.FBM wrote:Struck out, meaning thrown out of court for insufficient grounds or some such?
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Gotcha. Thanks for the info. 
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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Lawyers still made money, of that I am sure...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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Re: Dawkins sued for libel
I can't find any stories about any recent developments online.
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/JackofKent , http://twitter.com/#!/vaughanjones82 , http://twitter.com/#!/SLSinghFBM wrote:I can't find any stories about any recent developments online.
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
I hope to be in a position to write a little on the case soon. But, in summary...
The case was struck out. 60 pages allegations were narrowed down to 16 pages. These were then narrowed down to 4 or 5 sentences which the Judge found could be libellous but which had available defences.
The Judge decided it was not worth a trial to discover which one had the better prospect of defence and asked that, in light of this, whether I would be willing to agree not to repeat those sentences (or the meaning implied) in the future. I have, at this stage, agreed to do so to bring an end to the proceedings.
The claimant now has to pay £75,000 in costs (within 3 months), was denied permission to appeal and denied an attempt to have me committed to prison for "contempt of court".
The case was struck out. 60 pages allegations were narrowed down to 16 pages. These were then narrowed down to 4 or 5 sentences which the Judge found could be libellous but which had available defences.
The Judge decided it was not worth a trial to discover which one had the better prospect of defence and asked that, in light of this, whether I would be willing to agree not to repeat those sentences (or the meaning implied) in the future. I have, at this stage, agreed to do so to bring an end to the proceedings.
The claimant now has to pay £75,000 in costs (within 3 months), was denied permission to appeal and denied an attempt to have me committed to prison for "contempt of court".
Re: Dawkins sued for libel
I hope to be in a position to write a little on the case soon. But, in summary...
The case was struck out. 60 pages of allegations and argument was narrowed down, by a Master of the Court, to 16 pages. This was then narrowed down to 4 or 5 sentences which the Judge found 'could' be libellous but for which I had available defences to.
The Judge decided it was not worth a trial to hear the case and asked that, in light of this, whether I would be willing to agree not to repeat those sentences (or the meaning implied) in the future to bring an end to the case.
I have, at this stage, agreed to do so to bring an end to the proceedings. It was not worth increasing costs, time and stress if it could be brought to a quicker conclusion. I have a wife and two young children who need a husband and Father around the place.
Considering 95% of the case was struck out, there is no question that this is a victory on a number of levels which I will explain in due course. For example, the Judge ruled is not defamatory to call someone a Creationist. For those who debate religion and atheism this is quite an important finding by the High Court.
The claimant now has to pay £75,000 in costs (within 3 months), was denied permission to appeal and denied an attempt to have me committed to prison for "contempt of court".
The Claimant stated his intention to file a written application for permission to appeal.
The case was struck out. 60 pages of allegations and argument was narrowed down, by a Master of the Court, to 16 pages. This was then narrowed down to 4 or 5 sentences which the Judge found 'could' be libellous but for which I had available defences to.
The Judge decided it was not worth a trial to hear the case and asked that, in light of this, whether I would be willing to agree not to repeat those sentences (or the meaning implied) in the future to bring an end to the case.
I have, at this stage, agreed to do so to bring an end to the proceedings. It was not worth increasing costs, time and stress if it could be brought to a quicker conclusion. I have a wife and two young children who need a husband and Father around the place.
Considering 95% of the case was struck out, there is no question that this is a victory on a number of levels which I will explain in due course. For example, the Judge ruled is not defamatory to call someone a Creationist. For those who debate religion and atheism this is quite an important finding by the High Court.
The claimant now has to pay £75,000 in costs (within 3 months), was denied permission to appeal and denied an attempt to have me committed to prison for "contempt of court".
The Claimant stated his intention to file a written application for permission to appeal.
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Re: Dawkins sued for libel
Ah. Gotcha. I'm not a twit, you see.geehigh wrote:Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/JackofKent , http://twitter.com/#!/vaughanjones82 , http://twitter.com/#!/SLSinghFBM wrote:I can't find any stories about any recent developments online.
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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