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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:11 am

Did Trump make some stupid comment about breast feeding women being an invitation to grope?

Wouldn't put it past him. He seems to want to see how far he can push his crazed comments before even his die-hard supporters say enough is enough...

Probably got a fair way to go; he hasn't claimed that all Muslims like buggering goats...

Yet...
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:13 am

This is what comes of defining one's politics by what one opposes - which is everyone who doesn't think the same as you I guess.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:20 am

I've heard of insider reports that say that if Trump or Cruz win the primaries, then there is a window in which the Republicans can unendorse them and they won't have time to register as Independents. And that is what the GOP is considering doing.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:22 am

But who could they field in their place?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:42 am

One of the less insane nominees.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:09 am

Brian Peacock wrote:But who could they field in their place?
Hillary Clinton would make a good Republican candidate. She did work for that side until 1970. Though she has changed her mind on some issues (Vietnam and race policy, for instance), I really don't know why she joined the Democrats.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:17 am

She fits in now. The dems are largely a right-wing party.
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Post by JimC » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:24 am

rEvolutionist wrote:She fits in now. The dems are largely a right-wing party.
That's pushing it, surely. A tad right of centre by world standards, maybe...
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:28 am

Pfft. Look at what the dems have allowed regarding internal spying, illegal foreign invasions, Guantanamo, the successor to the Patriot Act, obamacare (which is written for insurance providers). Some of their policies are centre right, but a lot of them are highly corporatist and neocon.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:33 pm

A neocon is just a libertarian with the balls to do something about it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:45 pm

Pretty much, yeah.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:11 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:A neocon is just a libertarian with the balls to do something about it.
Neocons are not libertarian. Libertarian foreign policy stances are incompatible with neoconservative foreign policy stances.

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Post by Strontium Dog » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:25 pm

Neocons grew out of the left-wing of politics. That's how come they advocate top-down regime change. The idea that you can alter things from the top downwards is plucked straight from Marxian doctrine.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:01 pm

Neocons have always been Republican as far as Merkin politics are concerned, that is, the far right.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:08 pm

Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:But who could they field in their place?
Hillary Clinton would make a good Republican candidate. She did work for that side until 1970. Though she has changed her mind on some issues (Vietnam and race policy, for instance), I really don't know why she joined the Democrats.
Because, like her husband, she's a megalomaniac, congenital, pathological liar, a leftist Progressive power-seeker, a control freak, nascent tyrant and just about as evil and self centered a person as has ever existed on this planet, that's why, so she fits well with the rest of the Democrat party who have similar intentions for the rest of us.
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