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by Robert_S » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:40 pm
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by FBM » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:46 pm
Yeah, it's hard not to get pissed off at something or other almost daily. But the forum doesn't piss me off. It's changing, but why wouldn't it? For a while, when I was trying to resist the changes, it did stress me out. But then I realized that clinging to the past just guarantees disappointment. The arrow of time flies forward. Everything changes and there's nada we can do about it. Better to just flow with it and see what happens next, imo.
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by Robert_S » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:50 pm
I am part of that flow. Whatever I do cannot really be against it.
Not until I build the time machine at least.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by Hermit » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:11 pm
FBM wrote:The arrow of time flies forward.
It doesn't, you know?
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by Robert_S » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:21 pm
Hermit wrote:FBM wrote:The arrow of time flies forward.
It doesn't, you know?
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Zeno
The arrow of butterflies in a meandering sort of way.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by FBM » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:35 pm
Zeno didn't know how to find the sum of an infinite series.

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by Hermit » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:53 pm
FBM wrote:Zeno didn't know how to find the sum of an infinite series.

Yabut his paradoxes make for a light diversion in an otherwise stodgy thread.

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by FBM » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:07 am
True that.

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by JimC » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:36 am
Zeno went to Reno and bet on the tortoise races...
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by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:40 am
Robert_S wrote:rEvolutionist wrote:That's a fantastic insight. What's it got to do with anything?
As you have probably worked out over the years, I don't give a fuck what anyone does. I really don't care if you only come here once a month to whinge. I only care when people start attacking and/or misrepresenting me. But even then, I welcome the chance to argue about something and trade insults. I don't even know what we are arguing about any more, and I don't understand what the point of your posts are.
LOOK! THERE'S A SQUIRREL!!
I'm pissed off at this shit section and have been since before you showed up talking about your suspension. It's not just you, it's a number of folks using this section as a platform to bitch at another part of the web.
It's one of those things that have been chafing since before you got here.
Why on earth would you get so upset over such a minor thing?
How hard is it for you to ignore two threads (or a subforum)?
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by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:42 am
FBM wrote:Yeah, it's hard not to get pissed off at something or other almost daily. But the forum doesn't piss me off. It's changing, but why wouldn't it? For a while, when I was trying to resist the changes, it did stress me out. But then I realized that clinging to the past just guarantees disappointment. The arrow of time flies forward. Everything changes and there's nada we can do about it. Better to just flow with it and see what happens next, imo.

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by DaveDodo007 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:22 am
rEvolutionist wrote:I don't care that I got banned. The only regret I have is that I can't find another place on the net to have vigorous discussion. Although, looking at ratskep now, it's certainly not that place any more*.
* If ever it was. Ultimately, most vigorous discussion forums on the net get most of their traffic from inane repetitive discussion about US gun culture, US foreign policy (i.e. us vs them), climate change denialists, and in the rational sphere - god botherers. It's really just the equivalent of most sensationalist tv and print media, with the only difference being the generally more intellectually challenging topics and the higher than average intellect involved. But the outcome is the same: You're a poopy head, NO, YOU'RE a poopy head!
I'm just catching up with this thread but am with rEv on this one as ratskep should of been the ideal place to (after the Richard Dawkins melt down) to express new ideas, have robust debates which was free of censorship. It ends up with a moderation policy so heavy handed as to be anti free speech by another name. I love ratrionalia for its don't give a fuck stance but sometimes people want to be challenged and push ideas outside the norm, It is not our fault ratskep had no balls and moderated by Nazis.
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by DaveDodo007 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:35 am
surreptitious57 wrote:Number One : You do care you got banned because you never stop going on about Rat Skep which is why you feel the need to either post non stop about it here and / or
make many sock puppet accounts over there since it is the only way that you can actually access it since you were banned. You are so absolutely obsessed with it and it is plain to see. Now myself if I had the power would take you back as you cannot go for any specific length of time without having to wax lyrical about it now. You claim not to care but if that is true you would have dropped it by now. Your unrequited love for her is not going to go away any time soon. I feel sorry for you but you have at some point to learn to let go as she is not having you back and that is that
Number Two : You can go and find better rational fora if you tried. This is not the place for serious heavy as you know very well because everyone here just wants a good time Serious heavy discussion is just not the rationalia way of doing things. You want that then go look elsewhere and you shall find. But that would then mean leaving here and having to find a new audience to discuss your unrequited love for Rat Skep and why she should not have done what she did and that is just going to
be next to impossible. So you are stuck here on a site that does not do serious heavy while seeing what your lovely lady is up to without being able to ever get back
with her. Now that is not an ideal situation. But hopefully in time your love for Rat Skep shall diminish and you will be able to move on and find a new lady in your
life. I hope so too. I really do. Try and join another rational site and then just take it from there and when you do try not to make every other post about Rat Skep
This post is just stupid, Richard Dawkins site had a lot of people who come to it with new ideas and found people who they felt the could be open with. The so called lifeboat promised the same and failed to deliver when their preconceived notions are challenged. No one is claiming to be right or wrong here though it is so frustrating when some jobsworth who is now a pre school hall monitor aka mod cuts your argument down for a infraction of said rules.
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by DaveDodo007 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:57 am
rEvolutionist wrote:As far as I'm concerned it's hilarious drama. DaveDodo is one of the best things to happen to this forum for a while. At least he gets people talking (if only to take the piss out of him). What are you and others contributing in the way of threads? If there's a problem with the content on this forum, then the answer is to personally do something about it and post stuff you like to talk about. I just don't understand how some of you can make this the problem of others. Take responsibility for your own posting or lack thereof.
I don't have a problem with people taking the piss out of me. Though it would be nice if they had some intellectual balls for once, at least you can start having a decent discussion on ratskep before the mods get involved, here it is joking or light heartedness and derailing but sometimes you need a little more. This is were ratskep falls down and it is very annoying and pointing this out should not be a problem.
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by Scott1328 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:05 pm
You have one requirement on RatSkep, don't make it personal! and you can't do it. That is why the mods get involved. Your buttons are so goddam easy to push.
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