A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

[pErvinalia]

Because it's hate speech.

Then does that not make it all the important that you combat it rather than crawl away in to your little kindergarten holes for fear of offending some undefined person?

As I said earlier, there's no point debating with people who hold those views. There is no rational basis for holding views like that, so presenting them with a rational argument isn't likely to hold much sway over them. Some people are just fuckheads, and there's not much any of us can do about it.

Tell me, who were the members being attacked, which of your members fall under the 'obese' category?

It doesn't matter. It's hate speech. It's banned, and for good reason.

[pErvinalia]

Tell me, people from RatSskep, could this thread right here exist in your forum without the ban hammer or the thread-locked hammer falling?

Hmmmm?

Absolutely. This "Gallstones Tangent" as I shall call it, is just a spill over from a similar thread at RS. She wasn't replying over there, so I followed her here.

[Hermit]

Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with some Seth. If you haven't killed yourself after reading the nth derail into Socializm!!11!!1!! and Kommunizm!!!1!!111!!, then get back to me and we'll talk then.

I have read many of Seth's posts at RDF. He certainly had a colourful and hyperbolic manner of expressing himself, but I don't think he deserved to be banned there. Unless he change for the worse at RDF MarkII, I don't think he deserves banning there either.

[pErvinalia]

Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with some Seth. If you haven't killed yourself after reading the nth derail into Socializm!!11!!1!! and Kommunizm!!!1!!111!!, then get back to me and we'll talk then.

I have read many of Seth's posts at RDF. He certainly had a colourful and hyperbolic manner of expressing himself, but I don't think he deserved to be banned there. Unless he change for the worse at RDF MarkII, I don't think he deserves banning there either.

He actually started out quite well there (at RS), but soon fell into his old ways. As I said, he has had ample opportunity to alter his posting style to fit in with the FUA. He has no-one but himself to blame. GS and him are buddies, that's why we get these constant posts about how poor Sethy was hard done by. Virtually no-one else who is properly familiar with his style thinks he got anything other than what he deserved.

[95Theses]

Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with some Seth. If you haven't killed yourself after reading the nth derail into Socializm!!11!!1!! and Kommunizm!!!1!!111!!, then get back to me and we'll talk then.

I have read many of Seth's posts at RDF. He certainly had a colourful and hyperbolic manner of expressing himself, but I don't think he deserved to be banned there. Unless he change for the worse at RDF MarkII, I don't think he deserves banning there either.

Well go invite him here then, this is his blog :


http://thebroadside.freedomblogging.com/

Oh wait a minute, he won't come here because he doesn't feel that the rules will give him sufficient protection from personal attacks, and he doesn't think there are enough serious topics here to warrant his involvement.

Seth fucking loves the rules at RatSkep, he just thinks they should only apply to everyone who isn't him. Something that was occurring until more mods were put in charge of his pet forum, instead of just his mate being the mod.

[leo-rcc]

The more I read the defenses of RatSkep rulings the less I would want to go there.

[Hermit]

GS and him are buddies, that's why we get these constant posts about how poor Sethy was hard done by.

Let me be clear about this: I am no buddy of Seth's, and I loathe libertarianism, but I also think Seth was hard done by, at least over at RDF MarkI.

[Trolldor]

Because it's hate speech.

Then does that not make it all the important that you combat it rather than crawl away in to your little kindergarten holes for fear of offending some undefined person?

As I said earlier, there's no point debating with people who hold those views. There is no rational basis for holding views like that, so presenting them with a rational argument isn't likely to hold much sway over them. Some people are just fuckheads, and there's not much any of us can do about it.

Tell me, who were the members being attacked, which of your members fall under the 'obese' category?

It doesn't matter. It's hate speech. It's banned, and for good reason.

It matters absolutely. If you're going to ban someone for possible offence, then every single person who has any political, social or religious views will have to be banned for any expression of those views. They will offend someone.

[FBM]

What constitutes 'good reason' depends upon the ethos of the founders and majority membership. There's no single, objective, set-in-stone, one-size-fits-all definition. The people at RatSkep drew the line where they wanted it, as is their right. Those who find it uncomfortable can find another place that suits them better. Same as any other forum.

[Pappa]

Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with some Seth. If you haven't killed yourself after reading the nth derail into Socializm!!11!!1!! and Kommunizm!!!1!!111!!, then get back to me and we'll talk then.

I can say with 100% certainty that no derail would make me kill myself.

[Posse Comitatus]

I haven't been following this conversation but to get this straight have I done a RatSkep hate crime?

[JimC]

I haven't been following this conversation but to get this straight have I done a RatSkep hate crime?

Yes you have, you wicked, wicked boy!

[95Theses]

What constitutes 'good reason' depends upon the ethos of the founders and majority membership. There's no single, objective, set-in-stone, one-size-fits-all definition. The people at RatSkep drew the line where they wanted it, as is their right. Those who find it uncomfortable can find another place that suits them better. Same as any other forum.

All your posts in this thread deserve a

[Posse Comitatus]

Yes you have, you wicked, wicked boy!

Goodness gracious.



My apologies.

[charlou]

Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with some Seth. If you haven't killed yourself after reading the nth derail into Socializm!!11!!1!! and Kommunizm!!!1!!111!!, then get back to me and we'll talk then.

I remember Seth rather well from RDF. I didn't agree with his opinions or with his style of posting, but I stuck up for him more than once in the subforum where they dealt with member complaints and rule issues.