pzmyers wrote:People seem to be operating under a weird misapprehension that Richard Dawkins is an absentee landlord who only hears about what is going on in the forums when he gets reports from his brutal overseer, Black Josh. It's not true -- he is pretty savvy about this internet stuff, and can actually follow what you wild and crazy forum denizens say. And what he has been seeing is not pretty. Just look at this thread and the kinds of abuse people are heaping on Josh Timonen! I guarantee you that he is not browsing the forum here, or was browsing the RDF forums, and thinking, "Gee, these are exactly the kinds of people and comments I aim to encourage". I'd guess he's feeling glad to be rid of some of the riff-raff.
And at the same time, the RDF has lost some good people whose input has been and would be valuable. If those people weren't all baying at Josh in the current witchhunt, that is.
I speak from past experience with forum drama. Take some time and cool off. It's not that important. The people you're blaming really aren't out to hurt you (honestly, Josh is a good guy, his job is simply much larger than shepherding a forum, and those who hate him have really lost perspective), and if you show a little patience and tolerance, you might even be able to get them to help you out with some of your reasonable requests. I'm sure they actually like and respect many of the contributors and the general importance of the social aspect of the forums, but are reasonably concerned about the rather more vicious minority. What I see here doesn't help. There are some people here they would rather not see coming back to the RD forums. Can you guess why?
It's not because they're nasty vengeful control freaks, either. It might have more to do with the fact that they're human beings.
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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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He seems to have revised his thinking in recent years.
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Yes, you should post it in the other thread for the benefit of PZ's buddy, Hermit, who's so self absorbed he wouldn't bother to notice it here. 
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Excuse me!maiforpeace wrote:Yes, you should post it in the other thread for the benefit of PZ's buddy, Hermit, who's so self absorbed he wouldn't bother to notice it here.
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You are henceforth THE True and Original Hermit (TM). Accept no substitutions!Hermit wrote:Excuse me!maiforpeace wrote:Yes, you should post it in the other thread for the benefit of PZ's buddy, Hermit, who's so self absorbed he wouldn't bother to notice it here.
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My profuse apologies.Hermit wrote:Excuse me!maiforpeace wrote:Yes, you should post it in the other thread for the benefit of PZ's buddy, Hermit, who's so self absorbed he wouldn't bother to notice it here.
Hermit wrote:Excuse me!maiforpeace wrote:Yes, you should post it in the other thread for the benefit of PZ's buddy, THE Hermit, who's so self absorbed he wouldn't bother to notice it here.
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The thing is, Robert, that while Pappa wasn't out to hurt anyone these people are.
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