Hominids and chimpanzees. No gorillas included.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominini#Cladogram
there are virtually no chimpanzee fossils. Oldest is half a million years.
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but are there fossils thoughts to be chimp ancestors? do we know the missing link betwenn vanilla chimpanzees and bonobos?
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I don't think we have much. Just some time lines:
Within the Hominoidea (apes) superfamily, the Hominidae family diverged from the Hylobatidae (gibbon) family some 15–20 million years ago; African great apes (subfamily Homininae) diverged from orangutans (Ponginae) about 14 million years ago; the Hominini tribe (humans, Australopithecines and other extinct biped genera, and chimpanzee) parted from the Gorillini tribe (gorillas) between 9 million years ago and 8 million years ago; and, in turn, the subtribes Hominina (humans and biped ancestors) and Panina (chimps) separated about 7.5 million years ago to 5.6 million years ago (WIKI)
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Within the Hominoidea (apes) superfamily, the Hominidae family diverged from the Hylobatidae (gibbon) family some 15–20 million years ago; African great apes (subfamily Homininae) diverged from orangutans (Ponginae) about 14 million years ago; the Hominini tribe (humans, Australopithecines and other extinct biped genera, and chimpanzee) parted from the Gorillini tribe (gorillas) between 9 million years ago and 8 million years ago; and, in turn, the subtribes Hominina (humans and biped ancestors) and Panina (chimps) separated about 7.5 million years ago to 5.6 million years ago (WIKI)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_McBrearty
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And then there's the most recent incipient speciation, as the Homo trumpii separate from remaining normal humans... 

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Did someone say homo?
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actually, I guess that what you call homo trumpii is actually a subspecies of anthropopithecus stultus.
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