Is ageism the last 'acceptable' ism?

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Is ageism the last 'acceptable' ism?

Post by Rum » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:34 pm

These days racism is a no no, so is sexism. We stopped making fun of people with disabilities some time ago now. And yet here and elsewhere older people seem to be fair game.

Oh, don't be so touchy I hear some people tusk. Where's your sense of humour I hear elsewhere. Just the things women and black people and disabled people heard when they challenged prejudice against them.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:45 pm

Old folks? They weren't born old. They had a choice of taking risks and dying young. :smoke:
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Post by tattuchu » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:47 pm

I don't think it's fair game, necessarily. I'm getting on in years myself, so I'm fairly sensitive about age. I think it's something that can be joked about with a person if they're comfortable with it and it's a good natured ribbing. Folks here tend to tease Pen for his age. It actually kind of bothers me. But he seems okay with it. I hope he is. I myself don't know him well enough to make jokes about his age. To me, it would be disrespectful. I did post that Sarah Silverman vid in the other thread, but that was more a response to something Feck said, and not directed at Pen at all. And I thought the video was funny, but I thought it was funny because it was so shocking. It was a very dark humor. Funny, sad, troubling, all at the same time.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:48 pm

Zombie Rum wrote:And yet here and elsewhere older people seem to be fair game
You mean coffin dodgers?

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Post by Jason » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:50 pm

Zombie Rum wrote:These days racism is a no no, so is sexism. We stopped making fun of people with disabilities some time ago now. And yet here and elsewhere older people seem to be fair game.

Oh, don't be so touchy I hear some people tusk. Where's your sense of humour I hear elsewhere. Just the things women and black people and disabled people heard when they challenged prejudice against them.
Priapism.

What is an example of ageism in action?

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Post by klr » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:58 pm

The mandatory retirement age.
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Post by Rum » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:00 pm

tattuchu wrote:I don't think it's fair game, necessarily. I'm getting on in years myself, so I'm fairly sensitive about age. I think it's something that can be joked about with a person if they're comfortable with it and it's a good natured ribbing. Folks here tend to tease Pen for his age. It actually kind of bothers me. But he seems okay with it. I hope he is. I myself don't know him well enough to make jokes about his age. To me, it would be disrespectful. I did post that Sarah Silverman vid in the other thread, but that was more a response to something Feck said, and not directed at Pen at all. And I thought the video was funny, but I thought it was funny because it was so shocking. It was a very dark humor. Funny, sad, troubling, all at the same time.
Quite. Nobody knows if Pen is offended and he has too much dignity and pride to say either way.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:07 pm

Self-centred old people are clogging up houses too big for their needs here in the UK and adding to a shortage of affordable housing for young families. This is the real ageism. :smoke:
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:13 pm

Crumple wrote:Self-centred old people are clogging up houses too big for their needs here in the UK and adding to a shortage of affordable housing for young families. This is the real ageism. :smoke:
No actually, old people are just living their lives waiting for a coffin to hit them - hopefully a long, long time for most of them. Housing shortages come from a moribund housing market locked into high house prices through the oversupply of credit in the 2000s. Capitalism failed, and yet the world's governments still pour public sector resources into the void it left. The system is morally bankrupt. Old people are hapless spectators like the rest of us.

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Post by amused » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:17 pm

PordFrefect wrote:What is an example of ageism in action?
We were recently notified that one of the older engineers who worked at a consulting firm we use was laid off because of the recession. They kept the young guy that he was training, because the young guy is paid less. It's very difficult for men in their 50s to get hired, for the same reason. Plus, we tend to know more than the people who hire us, which makes them nervous.

So, the boomers need to occupy the personnel departments and neener neener the scruffians...
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:22 pm

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Crumple wrote:Self-centred old people are clogging up houses too big for their needs here in the UK and adding to a shortage of affordable housing for young families. This is the real ageism. :smoke:
No actually, old people are just living their lives waiting for a coffin to hit them - hopefully a long, long time for most of them. Housing shortages come from a moribund housing market locked into high house prices through the oversupply of credit in the 2000s. Capitalism failed, and yet the world's governments still pour public sector resources into the void it left. The system is morally bankrupt. Old people are hapless spectators like the rest of us.
They should move into multi-occupancy care homes and there would be no housing shortage. This isn't the system it is people hogging resources because they are afraid of the grave - like mini-pharoahs they want to take everything with them. :smoke:
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Post by HomerJay » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:28 pm

Atheism is the last acceptable ism.
Agnosticism is the last unacceptable ism.
I think the type of ageism we see now has only developed from the 50s and 60s, a relatively new phenomenon.

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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:30 pm

Crumple wrote:They should move into multi-occupancy care homes and there would be no housing shortage. This isn't the system it is people hogging resources because they are afraid of the grave - like mini-pharoahs they want to take everything with them. :smoke:
Multi-occupancy care homes are ridiculously expensive. People should be in their own homes when reach the end. The problem is the system, not old people. And stop smoking - do you realise how much it costs the rest of us to look after lung cancer patients? And I'm not talking about the NHS.

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Post by Pensioner » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:31 pm

Crumple wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:
Crumple wrote:Self-centred old people are clogging up houses too big for their needs here in the UK and adding to a shortage of affordable housing for young families. This is the real ageism. :smoke:
No actually, old people are just living their lives waiting for a coffin to hit them - hopefully a long, long time for most of them. Housing shortages come from a moribund housing market locked into high house prices through the oversupply of credit in the 2000s. Capitalism failed, and yet the world's governments still pour public sector resources into the void it left. The system is morally bankrupt. Old people are hapless spectators like the rest of us.
They should move into multi-occupancy care homes and there would be no housing shortage. This isn't the system it is people hogging resources because they are afraid of the grave - like mini-pharoahs they want to take everything with them. :smoke:
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