I agree with much of what people have said in the 'manners' thread. I think they are important fr a lot of reasons, however for one reason or another the internet often produced behaviour where, let's say. 'manners' are not a high priority. This applies in email even at work, where some people have not cottoned on that a short 'yes' or 'no' can sound abrupt and be interpreted ambiguously to say the least, to exchanges on forums, including this one from time to time, when people post remarks, sometimes ubrupt, hurtful and bad mannered which in all probability they would never dream of doing face to face or even in a formal letter.
So what's going on? Do people simply forget that there is a thinking, feeling human being sometimes at the other end of bad mannered comments, or does it not matter? 'Manners' - are they important on the net?
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I believe that answers your question.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Dead thread then. 
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I could go on about the 'several million users' and 'no real repurcussions' but I think IFT pretty much sums it up.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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I always try to behave the same online as I would offline when it comes to being nice/polite/etc. The only time I really fail is by inappropriate liking on Facebook. 
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I am an urbane, civilised and gracious individual both in real life and this strange digital landscape...
I put this down to the beneficial effects of gin...
I put this down to the beneficial effects of gin...
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I’m exactly the same in real life as I am on the net. 
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:I-love-pork: “I wish no harm to any human being, but I, as one man, am going to exercise my freedom of speech. No human being on the face of the earth, no government is going to take from me my right to speak, my right to protest against wrong, my right to do everything that is for the benefit of mankind. I am not here, then, as the accused; I am here as the accuser of capitalism dripping with blood from head to foot.”
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A cunt then?Pensioner wrote:I’m exactly the same in real life as I am on the net.
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Pappa wrote:A cunt then?Pensioner wrote:I’m exactly the same in real life as I am on the net.
In real life I'm so well mannered you would not believe it. 
“I wish no harm to any human being, but I, as one man, am going to exercise my freedom of speech. No human being on the face of the earth, no government is going to take from me my right to speak, my right to protest against wrong, my right to do everything that is for the benefit of mankind. I am not here, then, as the accused; I am here as the accuser of capitalism dripping with blood from head to foot.”
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In real life, I'm quite shy. People here don't always seem to believe me though.Pensioner wrote:Pappa wrote:A cunt then?Pensioner wrote:I’m exactly the same in real life as I am on the net.
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Yes.Rum wrote:I agree with much of what people have said in the 'manners' thread. I think they are important fr a lot of reasons, however for one reason or another the internet often produced behaviour where, let's say. 'manners' are not a high priority. This applies in email even at work, where some people have not cottoned on that a short 'yes' or 'no' can sound abrupt and be interpreted ambiguously to say the least, to exchanges on forums, including this one from time to time, when people post remarks, sometimes ubrupt, hurtful and bad mannered which in all probability they would never dream of doing face to face or even in a formal letter.
So what's going on? Do people simply forget that there is a thinking, feeling human being sometimes at the other end of bad mannered comments, or does it not matter? 'Manners' - are they important on the net?
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I always feel a bit guilty if I don't get around replying to PMs or messages on facebook or whatever. Especially if they are messages which are mostly small talk with no real subject to reply to, because then, after a few days when I finally find the time, it feels a bit pointless to reply, since most of what I'll be saying is "sorry I took a while replying".
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I think for some people it's easy to get so caught up in the discussion/debate online that they lose all sense of proportion and forget that they are communicating with another human being.
That said, I think that I am pretty much the same person online that I am in real life.
That said, I think that I am pretty much the same person online that I am in real life.
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People lack netiquette, basic logic, basic manners etc. altogether, in any combination and more... Plus it's easy to get caught in the notion of being on one side of an argument and being against the other... We're tribal beings and it hijacks our minds constantly... I'm always on the watch, asking myself whether I'm rationalising, stretching or what have you, just because I've taken a position and it's MY position.
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I feel supersized when I am online - everything becomes exaggerated, especially when I become engrossed, as Ayaan shrewdly pointed out. I feel that the best parts of my personality can sparkle, but the worst parts can become exaggerated as well.
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