Racism about islam can't exist: islam isn't a race: Poll

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Do you agree with the substantive motion?

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71%
No
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Not sure
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:39 pm

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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:40 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Go troll someone else.
Go troll someone else yourself.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:40 pm

Svartalf wrote:and this thread has become boring too, thanks to the two of you, shouldn't you have a special thread to hold your off topic bickering?
It's a non-thread anyway. Islamaphobia can't be racism by bloody definition. End thread.
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:41 pm

tsss, there's so much that can be milked out of it with proper quibbling...
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:22 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:It's a non-thread anyway. Islamaphobia can't be racism by bloody definition. End thread.
Yes it can.

Seriously, what's the motive in separating it out? Being nice to Richard Dawkins?

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Post by Rum » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:09 pm

It can be prejudice, but not racism that is why.

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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:25 pm

Rum wrote:It can be prejudice, but not racism that is why.
Isn't it about usage? Richard Dawkins says a woman wearing an abaya is in a bin liner. He's a racist.

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:27 pm

Abayas have all the fashion sense of bin liners, I hate the dawk but I can't fault him there.
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Post by Feck » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:15 pm

Since it is possible to give up Islam and become an apostate,Or to convert and become a muslim ; Islam cannot be a race .
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:17 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:It's a non-thread anyway. Islamaphobia can't be racism by bloody definition. End thread.
Yes it can.
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Post by tattuchu » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:38 pm

Well since the overwhelming majority of muslims are brown-skinned, and brown-skinned people are evil and inherently inferior, I think it's a fair conclusion that the hating of Islamists is racist (though of course completely justified) :prof:
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Post by JimC » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:47 pm

Many people who show strong anti-islamic feelings are racist, but that is because it is a good way to hide one's racism; it is typically conflated with anti-immigrant sentiments as well. However, it is possible to be anti-islam (at least its fundamentalist side) without being racist; the two do not completely overlap.

More generally, would people say that most racism is negative, generalised sentiments towards those who are not of your own race, or are many racists mono-racists; e.g. a white person hating black people but being fine with Asians?
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Post by JimC » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:49 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Rum wrote:It can be prejudice, but not racism that is why.
Isn't it about usage? Richard Dawkins says a woman wearing an abaya is in a bin liner. He's a racist.
That is a somewhat nasty and prejudiced statement, but not racist. The person behind the robe could be white, black, arab or asian woman...

Or a fanatical male muslim with a suicide bomb vest...
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:11 pm

JimC wrote:Or a fanatical male muslim with a suicide bomb vest...
Yep, could be any manifestation of a racist's stereotype of muslims

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:14 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:It's a non-thread anyway. Islamaphobia can't be racism by bloody definition. End thread.
Yes it can.
You like making bald assertions don't you?
Seriously, what's the motive in separating it out?
"Seriously"? Don't make me laugh.

Why does there need to be a "motive" behind stating the facts of a definition? :think:
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