Do Women Deserve The Vote?

[cronus]

Where is the parody?: Do women deserve to float?

(Witches/float/Python)

A wee bit obscure and cruel.

[Svartalf]

Witches do, why not other women?

[Tero]

floating women

[Cormac]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

There is no such thing as a "benevolent dictatorship".

[Cormac]

Only need to get it right the once. Blackswans and KBO.

Many times they must have got it wrong before they stumbled on a social form allowing the Ancient Egyptians enough social flex and inflex to build the pyramids.

Any idea how turbulent the Egyptian political structure was?

[Azathoth]

How about limiting who is eligible for a ministerial position rather than who can vote for them? An undergrad degree in politic does not qualify you to be in chancellor of the exchequer. No doctorate in economics? GTFO. Want to be minister of science and technology? Not a member of the royal society? GTFO. etc.

[cronus]

I readily admit the track record of top down governance is not encouraging. With no checks and balances the best of intentions can quickly turn into a despotic nightmare. Then the past is another country before the WWW and instant communications. It is less easy now to hoard the decision making processing - where once a inefficient democratic process gave individuals a say once every five years - and the political process was/is geared to a small timeframe as a result....now there is instant feedback and the need for timeframes spanning decades - viable nuclear fission is a centuries long process of experiment and error, climate change and big projects require time frames outside those the democratic process provides for. It is important to compensate for a loss of say at the ballot box and where possible democratic voting on non-critical issues should be provided for and can with new technology be provided. It is keeping the centralised nature of what are species survival decisions, the hard ones, in the hands of the folks who know about flying the plane - at present that isn't happening. Some inevitable socio-economic turbulence comes along and the mob out there will head to the guy with the loudest voice and that won't end good at all. That'll be the worst of all worlds. All I'm doing is proposing a lesser evil that might be the best shot we've got in the current circumstances but it is a gamble - going to be one chance to get it right. This is a more relevant issue after the dollar crash - it is a model of the narrow way which will likely turn to theocratic fascism in the US, the best chance to get it right is with smaller countries where 'organisation of smart elites' is simplified by scaling. Taking the US apart is a way - that stage needs to be started before the coming economic storm from within. That is unnecessary in places like the UK and Germany.

[Hermit]

Only need to get it right the once. Blackswans and KBO.

Many times they must have got it wrong before they stumbled on a social form allowing the Ancient Egyptians enough social flex and inflex to build the pyramids.

I can't find the right rosetta stone to translate your glyphs. Or are you suggesting that the pharaonic epoch represented a time and place where elites were governing "for the good of all"? If so, try again.

[cronus]

Only need to get it right the once. Blackswans and KBO.

Many times they must have got it wrong before they stumbled on a social form allowing the Ancient Egyptians enough social flex and inflex to build the pyramids.

I can't find the right rosetta stone to translate your glyphs. Or are you suggesting that the pharaonic epoch represented a time and place where elites were governing "for the good of all"? If so, try again.

Most recent archaeological evidence points to them being built by freemen inspired with the idea of immortality and pay.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8451538.stm

[Audley Strange]

I've got to agree Scrump. A couple of days without Facebook and half our country would vote in Farage on a "kill all Jews" policy.

When you say" half," are you referring to women?

No.

[cronus]

I've got to agree Scrump. A couple of days without Facebook and half our country would vote in Farage on a "kill all Jews" policy.

When you say" half," are you referring to women?

No.

Certainly not this week. Farage escaped the flack by executing his number two - that is one dangerous politician.

[Audley Strange]

Yeah, somehow I don't think many women are going to be voting for the "all women are sluts" party. Still as you say a week is a long time in politics. Perhaps Cameron will be found naked in a bed with a dozen dead and raped squirrels, or Milliband will be revealed as a Lizard, or Clegg will do something.

[Svartalf]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

There is no such thing as a "benevolent dictatorship".

Try making me dictator, you might see one... and there was the tyranny of Peisistratos in Ancient Athens.

[Svartalf]

How about limiting who is eligible for a ministerial position rather than who can vote for them? An undergrad degree in politic does not qualify you to be in chancellor of the exchequer. No doctorate in economics? GTFO. Want to be minister of science and technology? Not a member of the royal society? GTFO. etc.

Ivory tower academics are good at small scale infighting, but not necessarily qualified for national politics at all.

[cronus]

How about limiting who is eligible for a ministerial position rather than who can vote for them? An undergrad degree in politic does not qualify you to be in chancellor of the exchequer. No doctorate in economics? GTFO. Want to be minister of science and technology? Not a member of the royal society? GTFO. etc.

Ivory tower academics are good at small scale infighting, but not necessarily qualified for national politics at all.

That is what politics is now, the major issue is we have politicians capable of answering twenty questions on philisophy, politics and economics come pub night yet incapable of either the Machiavellian cunning of the animal breed, who are currently knocking on weakened doors everywhere, or the sophisticated intelligence of long term thinkers who have currently gone to ground with the prepper movement. Seems there is a crisis coming with all the economic mismanagement and money printing, and the nasties are better prepared for that day than the well meaning good guys?