Husbands who do female housework have less sex

[Bella Fortuna]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

[Kristie]

My SWMBO'd doesn't go that far, but she gets a bit huffy now and again, and she catches herself. Like when I've spent the day cleaning and washing the cars, and pressure washing the house and such, and then she gets testy with me because she ironed my shirts.

I've always noticed, however, a tendency for men's "traditional" contributions to the home to be left out of the equation as to who is actually doing what around the house.

My husband enjoys doing things like cleaning the cars and pressure washing the sidewalks and cleaning out the garage. I despise housework. Although I know he's doing hard work, it sometimes doesn't seem like 'work'. That would be my only complaint.
Men's 'traditional' contributions do seem to be things that don't need done on a daily basis. At my house, things on that list may only pop up a couple times a week. My housework, on the other hand, is 7 days a week.

[Kristie]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

My husband isn't really messy, it's the 3 kids. But, the rare times he does leave me a mess, I make sure I let him know. :twisted:

[Coito ergo sum]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

My husband isn't really messy, it's the 3 kids. But, the rare times he does leave me a mess, I make sure I let him know. :twisted:

This is where women have an unfair advantage. You get to "let us know" about our defalcations, but we are unable to do likewise, like if you break something that we have to fix or forget that cars need oil and stuff.... if we "let you know" about it, then your kind get all upset and cry and stuff.

[Bella Fortuna]

Oh shut up with your tiresome gender stereotypes!

[Coito ergo sum]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

On these issues, I become torn. I wonder why that would ever be a bone of contention. I mean, I know that when I make something in the kitchen, I clean it up. When I do something around the house, I put it back to normal. It's nice to live in a clean house, and it's far easier to clean a little bit each day, then wait until it is a monumental task and spend all day trying to clean the house. Fuck, once or twice a week I leave the house after SWMBO'd and on those days, I take a few minutes in the morning and make sure that all the dishes in the kitchen are either away or in the dishwasher, counters wiped down, laundry either done or in the washer ready to go, and I pick up the living room and put everything away and make the bed. It takes a grand total of about 15 to 30 minutes when done efficiently and regularly, and it means the house looks clean when we come home.

I never understood arguing about cleaning up. Just get up and clean the fucking room up for a few minutes and then it's done. Doesn't have to be a big production.

I can see that women sometimes have a much more demanding standard of what constitutes "clean", of course. And, that, I think, is the basis for most of that contention. When two people live in the same house and one likes it significantly cleaner than the other, the more messy of the two will tend to not be bothered by the messes. The one that is bothered by the messes will not be able to just leave it. Bitterness ensues.

[Kristie]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

My husband isn't really messy, it's the 3 kids. But, the rare times he does leave me a mess, I make sure I let him know. :twisted:

This is where women have an unfair advantage. You get to "let us know" about our defalcations, but we are unable to do likewise, like if you break something that we have to fix or forget that cars need oil and stuff.... if we "let you know" about it, then your kind get all upset and cry and stuff.

Maybe your wife does.

[Coito ergo sum]

Oh shut up with your tiresome gender stereotypes!

There it is!

LOL.

I advise the young guys out there on dealing with women -- Coito's proverb number 28 -- the only thing worse than losing an argument with a woman is winning one. Some have reformulated this into an axiom, which is "It is impossible to win an argument with a woman."

[Kristie]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

On these issues, I become torn. I wonder why that would ever be a bone of contention. I mean, I know that when I make something in the kitchen, I clean it up. When I do something around the house, I put it back to normal. It's nice to live in a clean house, and it's far easier to clean a little bit each day, then wait until it is a monumental task and spend all day trying to clean the house. Fuck, once or twice a week I leave the house after SWMBO'd and on those days, I take a few minutes in the morning and make sure that all the dishes in the kitchen are either away or in the dishwasher, counters wiped down, laundry either done or in the washer ready to go, and I pick up the living room and put everything away and make the bed. It takes a grand total of about 15 to 30 minutes when done efficiently and regularly, and it means the house looks clean when we come home.

I never understood arguing about cleaning up. Just get up and clean the fucking room up for a few minutes and then it's done. Doesn't have to be a big production.

I can see that women sometimes have a much more demanding standard of what constitutes "clean", of course. And, that, I think, is the basis for most of that contention. When two people live in the same house and one likes it significantly cleaner than the other, the more messy of the two will tend to not be bothered by the messes. The one that is bothered by the messes will not be able to just leave it. Bitterness ensues.

I'm the one in this house not bothered by the mess. Hubby is the neat freak. He also seems to be the one that will 'forget' to clean up after making a sandwich. He'll sit at the table to eat and then go off and work on something leaving the mess on the kitchen island. I'll start cleaning it up and he'll come in saying 'I was going to do that'. Yeah? When? When the bread goes stale and the lunch meat needs thrown away? But, he's the one to be upset when he comes home to a house that's not in order.
I have no problem cleaning up after the kids, but I shouldn't have to clean up after him. He's a big boy. And, like you say, it only takes a few minutes. Luckily, he only leaves me a mess every now and then. +

[Coito ergo sum]

Maybe your wife does.

LOL -- actually, she doesn't because I knew the rule in advance of meeting her...

[Kristie]

Maybe your wife does.

LOL -- actually, she doesn't because I knew the rule in advance of meeting her...

Well, this wife doesn't get upset and cry and stuff when hubby lets me know he had to pick up my slack somewhere. If I can give it, I can take it. I let him know, he lets me know.

[Bella Fortuna]

Hey, what about those of us who live by ourselves and do all the fucking work?

You have less laundry and dishes! And, no messy husband to clean up after!

This is true. I have to say, cleaning up only after oneself (and marginally, child) makes one far less resentful about cleaning. I really don't mind it at all now, when in the marriage it was a HUGE bone of contention.

On these issues, I become torn. I wonder why that would ever be a bone of contention. I mean, I know that when I make something in the kitchen, I clean it up. When I do something around the house, I put it back to normal. It's nice to live in a clean house, and it's far easier to clean a little bit each day, then wait until it is a monumental task and spend all day trying to clean the house. Fuck, once or twice a week I leave the house after SWMBO'd and on those days, I take a few minutes in the morning and make sure that all the dishes in the kitchen are either away or in the dishwasher, counters wiped down, laundry either done or in the washer ready to go, and I pick up the living room and put everything away and make the bed. It takes a grand total of about 15 to 30 minutes when done efficiently and regularly, and it means the house looks clean when we come home.

I never understood arguing about cleaning up. Just get up and clean the fucking room up for a few minutes and then it's done. Doesn't have to be a big production.

I can see that women sometimes have a much more demanding standard of what constitutes "clean", of course. And, that, I think, is the basis for most of that contention. When two people live in the same house and one likes it significantly cleaner than the other, the more messy of the two will tend to not be bothered by the messes. The one that is bothered by the messes will not be able to just leave it. Bitterness ensues.

That last paragraph: yes. Living with someone whose fundamental ideas about cleanliness are at a wide variance with your own, and who is lazy and uncaring about the equity of household work, will lead to much resentment and bitterness. You have a standard. The other person doesn't share that and so it is unimportant to them, so they refuse to contribute to keeping up your standard because they lack an element of caring for their partner's feelings. They don't see the palliative effect of making an effort simply because it matters to the other person, a small thing in the bigger picture that often wards off larger problems down the line. Hilarity ensues.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm the one in this house not bothered by the mess. Hubby is the neat freak. He also seems to be the one that will 'forget' to clean up after making a sandwich. He'll sit at the table to eat and then go off and work on something leaving the mess on the kitchen island. I'll start cleaning it up and he'll come in saying 'I was going to do that'. Yeah? When? When the bread goes stale and the lunch meat needs thrown away? But, he's the one to be upset when he comes home to a house that's not in order.
I have no problem cleaning up after the kids, but I shouldn't have to clean up after him. He's a big boy. And, like you say, it only takes a few minutes. Luckily, he only leaves me a mess every now and then. +

Yes, I could see that.

I am big on kitchens and bathrooms being cleaned immediately. I wipe down the counter and the sink in the bathroom every day, and in the kitchen I never leave so much as a fork in the sink. I just know that these things only get worse. It takes literally a couple of minutes to clean the kitchen right after a simple meal like lunch, including putting everything away, dishwasher loaded, and wipe down table and counter. Done.

Now, if I'm working on a big project, come in for lunch, it is most appreciated if SWMBO'd would take the lead on cleaning up my lunch. But on a normal day where I'm not involved in some big task, then cleaning up after oneself should be a basic item of business.

I even make the bed as a matter of course. A lot of people say "why make the bed if nobody is coming over...?" -- I don't do that for other people, I do it for myself. That's the thing with home chores. Once one puts one's mindset into the mode of doing these things for oneself rather than thinking this is for others, it becomes more tolerable if not enjoyable.

[Bella Fortuna]

I make my bed every day. To me it's depressing getting into a rumpled bed at night. I like it to look fresh and tidy. I should start leaving myself chocolates on my pillow.

[Kristie]

I'm the one in this house not bothered by the mess. Hubby is the neat freak. He also seems to be the one that will 'forget' to clean up after making a sandwich. He'll sit at the table to eat and then go off and work on something leaving the mess on the kitchen island. I'll start cleaning it up and he'll come in saying 'I was going to do that'. Yeah? When? When the bread goes stale and the lunch meat needs thrown away? But, he's the one to be upset when he comes home to a house that's not in order.
I have no problem cleaning up after the kids, but I shouldn't have to clean up after him. He's a big boy. And, like you say, it only takes a few minutes. Luckily, he only leaves me a mess every now and then. +

Yes, I could see that.

I am big on kitchens and bathrooms being cleaned immediately. I wipe down the counter and the sink in the bathroom every day, and in the kitchen I never leave so much as a fork in the sink. I just know that these things only get worse. It takes literally a couple of minutes to clean the kitchen right after a simple meal like lunch, including putting everything away, dishwasher loaded, and wipe down table and counter. Done.

Now, if I'm working on a big project, come in for lunch, it is most appreciated if SWMBO'd would take the lead on cleaning up my lunch. But on a normal day where I'm not involved in some big task, then cleaning up after oneself should be a basic item of business.

I even make the bed as a matter of course. A lot of people say "why make the bed if nobody is coming over...?" -- I don't do that for other people, I do it for myself. That's the thing with home chores. Once one puts one's mindset into the mode of doing these things for oneself rather than thinking this is for others, it becomes more tolerable if not enjoyable.

My husband will actually make only his side of the bed. And, not because I'm still in it. He will literally make only his side of the bed. I don't get it. The way our blankets are on the bed, it take less than 1 minute to make the bed.