Should we reduce the surplus population to fight climate change?

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Should we reduce the surplus population to fight climate change?

Post by aufbahrung » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:38 pm

Suicide booths. Euthanasia being liberalised and for any who have a bad day or two? Lot's of ways to reduce population. And all will reduce the carbon footprint of mankind. Trying to start a serious debate.
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Post by laklak » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:41 pm

Involuntary euthanasia. Modern solutions for modern problems.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by aufbahrung » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:52 pm

laklak wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:41 pm
Involuntary euthanasia. Modern solutions for modern problems.
CIA for? :smoke:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:16 pm

You could volunteer to go first.
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Post by laklak » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:33 am

The beauty of involuntary euthanasia is there's none of that tiresome volunteering shite.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:48 am

So the Columbine kids were actually do gooders?
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Post by laklak » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:22 am

It has to be a lottery.
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Post by JimC » Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:36 am

The next pandemic might just do the trick...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:19 am

aufbahrung wrote:Suicide booths. Euthanasia being liberalised and for any who have a bad day or two? Lot's of ways to reduce population. And all will reduce the carbon footprint of mankind. Trying to start a serious debate.
When people talk about this kind of thing they're usually thinking about the poor.

"We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavouring to impede, the operations of nature in producing mortality; and if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use. Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague. In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations.*12 But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and those benevolent, but much mistaken men, who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders."
-- Robert Malthus, An Essay on the Principle of Population, 1798. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Essay_ ... Population

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Re: Should we reduce the surplus population to fight climate change?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:59 am

laklak wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:22 am
It has to be a lottery.
why not a carrousel while you're at it?
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am

I guess a contrived disease would be more democratic and provide a golden ticket or not depending on luck rather wealth?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:35 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:19 am
aufbahrung wrote:Suicide booths. Euthanasia being liberalised and for any who have a bad day or two? Lot's of ways to reduce population. And all will reduce the carbon footprint of mankind. Trying to start a serious debate.
When people talk about this kind of thing they're usually thinking about the poor.

"We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavouring to impede, the operations of nature in producing mortality; and if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use. Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague. In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations.*12 But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and those benevolent, but much mistaken men, who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders."
-- Robert Malthus, An Essay on the Principle of Population, 1798. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Essay_ ... Population
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:42 am

What surplus population?

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:13 am

aufbahrung wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:38 pm
Suicide booths. Euthanasia being liberalised and for any who have a bad day or two? Lot's of ways to reduce population. And all will reduce the carbon footprint of mankind.
So, 'Go Fuck Yourself!' for the win?
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Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:38 pm
Trying to start a serious debate.
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Post by laklak » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:12 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:13 am
...So, 'Go Fuck Yourself!' for the win? ...
Pull my hair
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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