How far is too far when collecting a debt?
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Re: How far is too far when collecting a debt?
Violence is generally considered to be physical. But it's not so much of a stretch to apply it to the psychological I suppose.
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Re: How far is too far when collecting a debt?
Hmm. How come we're talking about stretching words now? I thought words had meanings and that was the end of the matter.
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There's no amount of stretching that makes debt violence.Brian Peacock wrote:Hmm. How come we're talking about stretching words now? I thought words had meanings and that was the end of the matter.
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If I'd said that debt was violence you might have a point there.
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And to preempt your reply, a point I've already made and which you haven't addressed, usury refers to interest on loans. Not exclusively to excessive levels of interest.
And even if it was solely excessive levels of interest, it still doesn't make loans of that type violence. No stretching of the world violence can make it so.
And even further, you'd have to provide some evidence to suggest that significant portions of medical debt are subject to excessive/illegal levels of interest. Notwithstanding the first two points above.
And even if it was solely excessive levels of interest, it still doesn't make loans of that type violence. No stretching of the world violence can make it so.
And even further, you'd have to provide some evidence to suggest that significant portions of medical debt are subject to excessive/illegal levels of interest. Notwithstanding the first two points above.
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Re: How far is too far when collecting a debt?
It's the fact that people in a civilised country can be forced into debt at all to pay for necessary medical procedures that is the damning indictment...
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Well 42 used to post stats showing that it was mostly the non-poor who choose not to have insurance and end up having to get a loan to pay for major treatment. Of course it would be better if everyone was covered by UHC, but short of that, if you can afford insurance and don't get it, then you've got to take some responsibility for the position you find yourself in.
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Re: How far is too far when collecting a debt?
I thought you'd be in favour of free, universal health cover...pErvinalia wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:18 amWell 42 used to post stats showing that it was mostly the non-poor who choose not to have insurance and end up having to get a loan to pay for major treatment. Of course it would be better if everyone was covered by UHC, but short of that, if you can afford insurance and don't get it, then you've got to take some responsibility for the position you find yourself in.
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Of course I am. What makes you think I'm not?
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Well, it would remove the whole problem of medically driven debt, which you seem to imply people should cop it sweet...
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I'm referring to the US system where they don't have UHC.
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Anyway, looking at some stats, it appears that losing your job (or having to take unpaid leave) due to illness plays a big part in medical bankruptcies. So even if you have medical insurance (which itself doesn't cover everything, and has costly deductibles and co-pays), you can still find yourself in trouble. Not to mention that a lot of people have their medical insurance via their employer. So, basically, you are screwed if you get sick in the US. It's like a third world country when it comes to health.
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