Burglars are people too?

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Burglars are people too?

Post by cronus » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:35 am

Should you have the right to kill a burglar?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:38 am

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:47 am

well, as a former tax clerk I certainly don't approve of killing taxmen... but then again, people who intrude into your home should be fair game
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:30 pm

I think you should have the right to challenge them to a dance-off.
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Post by laklak » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:33 pm

Down here we call them "targets".
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:16 pm

They're not burglars, they self-identify as owners of your property.
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Post by laklak » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:17 pm

If property is theft then burglary is theft of theft, which is like a double negative, so it's really giving you stuff.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm

The negatives cancel each other out.

In reality they are just homesteading your property.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:41 pm

You cant touch them here. The police advice is to try and get out of the house and call them.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:44 pm

Indeed, I'd climb out the window and let my four year old figure it out for herself. The cops will get there soon enough. Anything else is uncivilized.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:55 pm

Burglars are people too?
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Should you have the right to kill a burglar?
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Post by Rum » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:41 pm

You can't just go killing any old burglar in England!. A 78 year old guy who stabbed and killed a burglar (I suspect this is what prompted Crumple's post) is being charged with murder. He is out on bail so it does not appear that he presents a risk to the public!

There will of course be a public outcry if he is actually taken to court and found guilty..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43648896

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:04 pm

Very poorly written article. Sometimes I wonder if these kinds of articles are purposefully poorly written. But the facts are weirdly stated.

What I glean after reading through it three times is that there is an elderly homeowner who lives in a place called Hither Green. The homeowner the article says is "named locally" Richard Osborn-Brooks. Is that a British term? "Named locally?" Do you have non-local names?

The article has a picture of Mr. Osborn-Brooks, and the one they chose is him sitting at some sort of sporting event or something two-fisting some sort of dark beer. Odd choice of photos for an article about violent burglary.

The beer loving Osborn-Brooks, the article says, apparently found two intruders in "South Park Crescent, Hither Green, south London." Odd. Is that the name of a house? What does that mean? Is it an area of south London or is a building?

A man armed with a screwdriver forced the homeowner into his kitchen where there was a struggle and the suspect was stabbed, the Met said. So, did the homeowner find the intruders in the house? Or were they outside the house and then used the screwdriver to force the homeowner into the house?

The article says jewelry and valuables were stolen, and the dead intruder was found outside the house, apparently tried to flee but his cohort left him behind to die.

Odd. Some facts seem to be missing here.
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Post by Rum » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:19 pm

Forty Two wrote:Very poorly written article. Sometimes I wonder if these kinds of articles are purposefully poorly written. But the facts are weirdly stated.

What I glean after reading through it three times is that there is an elderly homeowner who lives in a place called Hither Green. The homeowner the article says is "named locally" Richard Osborn-Brooks. Is that a British term? "Named locally?" Do you have non-local names?

The article has a picture of Mr. Osborn-Brooks, and the one they chose is him sitting at some sort of sporting event or something two-fisting some sort of dark beer. Odd choice of photos for an article about violent burglary.

The beer loving Osborn-Brooks, the article says, apparently found two intruders in "South Park Crescent, Hither Green, south London." Odd. Is that the name of a house? What does that mean? Is it an area of south London or is a building?

A man armed with a screwdriver forced the homeowner into his kitchen where there was a struggle and the suspect was stabbed, the Met said. So, did the homeowner find the intruders in the house? Or were they outside the house and then used the screwdriver to force the homeowner into the house?

The article says jewelry and valuables were stolen, and the dead intruder was found outside the house, apparently tried to flee but his cohort left him behind to die.

Odd. Some facts seem to be missing here.
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Re: Burglars are people too?

Post by Forty Two » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:12 am

But, “named locally” - doesn’t he just have a name? Or is it a caveat here that the local people may be referring to him by something other than his real name? It’s weird. Is it a British thing? Or is it particular to this article?

Also, why does the article suck at telling the story? It’s like it’s purposefully vague. And what’s with the picture? Why do they have this guy double fishing Guiness?

Just seems ..... out of place and disjointed.

But the guy is hardcore. Two burglars in his house, and he stabs one of them and scares the other guy off, dragging his pal down the street with him only to leave him for dead on the street. I mean, that makes pulling out your .38 and putting one in the guy’s leg look wimpy.

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