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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:29 am

Serious question - How do you explain these things in societies that are argued to be still racist and or mysogynistic?
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Post by cronus » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:29 am

pErvinalia wrote:Serious question - How do you explain these things in societies that are argued to be still racist and or mysogynistic?
The sort of people who have retarded values are less likely to vote?
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Post by Tero » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:38 am

The racist element are not very politically active. They take few leading roles and stay mostly out of public office. They are happy to vote for center Republicans, as long as they represent them in some manner. Old fart white guys. The fact that Obama got voted got them all active. You can read all their rantings here.
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So they actually came out in great number to vote against Hillary who represented Obama legacy.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:58 am

Voting a politician is a very conscious activity. Most of racism and sexism is based on subconscious activity or based on social processes.

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Post by Rum » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:09 am

I think there is less overt racism and sexism than there was a few decades ago, however people are not only more aware of it these days but also more sensitive about it - so generally speaking it is in peoples's consciousness rather more these days.

Out and out racism tends to be vilified these days. I think the alt-right is a sneaky way of making excuses for racism under the heading of 'PC is liberal hogwash'.

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Post by cronus » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:21 am

Rum wrote:I think there is less overt racism and sexism than there was a few decades ago, however people are not only more aware of it these days but also more sensitive about it - so generally speaking it is in peoples's consciousness rather more these days.

Out and out racism tends to be vilified these days. I think the alt-right is a sneaky way of making excuses for racism under the heading of 'PC is liberal hogwash'.
Political correctness makes it hard to speak about anything, good or bad, directly anymore. Trump bucked the trend, might be the start of a retrenchment? Consciousness has not raised much around these parts...myth of progress on the other hand. Far from parity with female or black leaders...
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Post by Rum » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:26 am

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Rum wrote:I think there is less overt racism and sexism than there was a few decades ago, however people are not only more aware of it these days but also more sensitive about it - so generally speaking it is in peoples's consciousness rather more these days.

Out and out racism tends to be vilified these days. I think the alt-right is a sneaky way of making excuses for racism under the heading of 'PC is liberal hogwash'.
Political correctness makes it hard to speak about anything, good or bad, directly anymore. Trump bucked the trend, might be the start of a retrenchment? Consciousness has not raised much around these parts...myth of progress on the other hand. Far from parity with female or black leaders...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:29 am

NineBerry wrote:Voting a politician is a very conscious activity. Most of racism and sexism is based on subconscious activity or based on social processes.
I like this explanation.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:33 am

Rum wrote:
cronus wrote:
Rum wrote:I think there is less overt racism and sexism than there was a few decades ago, however people are not only more aware of it these days but also more sensitive about it - so generally speaking it is in peoples's consciousness rather more these days.

Out and out racism tends to be vilified these days. I think the alt-right is a sneaky way of making excuses for racism under the heading of 'PC is liberal hogwash'.
Political correctness makes it hard to speak about anything, good or bad, directly anymore. Trump bucked the trend, might be the start of a retrenchment? Consciousness has not raised much around these parts...myth of progress on the other hand. Far from parity with female or black leaders...
What?
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Post by cronus » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:56 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Rum wrote:
cronus wrote:
Rum wrote:I think there is less overt racism and sexism than there was a few decades ago, however people are not only more aware of it these days but also more sensitive about it - so generally speaking it is in peoples's consciousness rather more these days.

Out and out racism tends to be vilified these days. I think the alt-right is a sneaky way of making excuses for racism under the heading of 'PC is liberal hogwash'.
Political correctness makes it hard to speak about anything, good or bad, directly anymore. Trump bucked the trend, might be the start of a retrenchment? Consciousness has not raised much around these parts...myth of progress on the other hand. Far from parity with female or black leaders...
What?
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Actually the memes come down from the alpha male and Trump is exactly that....you'll get the idea. Doesn't surprise me I have a double here and there.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:44 am

pErvinalia wrote:Serious question - How do you explain these things in societies that are argued to be still racist and or mysogynistic?
Not everyone is racist and or mysogynistic.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:46 am

pErvinalia wrote:Does anyone here hang out at ratskep? There's a member there who's name I'm temporarily drawing a blank on at the moment, who posts largely incomprehensible pseudo-intellectual wibble.
Mr Samsa?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:48 am

pErvinalia wrote:Serious question - How do you explain these things in societies that are argued to be still racist and or mysogynistic?
They become honorary same-race/males. I've seen that process repeatedly at work.

Two truck drivers, for example:

Norman was an Indian-Malaysian with accent and skin tone to match. He did his job as well as (actually better than) the average of his colleagues, so he was "just like us", that is not an Indian-Malaysian. The unconscious underlying reasoning was that Indian-Malaysians are so inferior. None could possibly do what Norm did, so he was not really an Indian-Malaysian bloke.

Jan was a woman with tits and lips to match. She did what the average of us male truck drivers did with equal, if not better competence. Jan became a non-woman via the same thought process described above.

The above rationalisations enabled the racists and sexists that made up the majority of the around thirty drivers in the Sydney depot to remain as racist and sexist as before. It took care of the worrying possibility that if one non-Caucasian and one non-male could be as good - or better than - Caucasian males, maybe all of them could. Thin end of the wedge avoided. So I kept hearing comments over the two-way radio about this "slant-eye" and that "woman driver" for as long as I subcontracted for that particular express freight transport company.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:06 am

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pErvinalia wrote:Serious question - How do you explain these things in societies that are argued to be still racist and or mysogynistic?
Not everyone is racist and or mysogynistic.
Yet they support a racist and mysogynistic society.
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