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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:08 am

Those guys can be some weird motherfuckers. You have to grow up in it man, that's the only way. I just can't imagine adopting it later on in life.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:54 am

I wonder how many of them have had an evangelical upbringing and percussive trauma to the head.
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Post by JimC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:04 am

They have been infected by a particularly nasty viral meme...
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:27 am

what's with Merkins setting crosses on fire?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:50 am

Seems a bit un-christian like.
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Post by JimC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 am

Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war...
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:34 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:48 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:26 pm
Seabass wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:59 am
New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media
The “enemy of the people” talk is working. A plurality of self-identified Republicans say they want Trump to have the power to take “bad” media outlets out.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-poll- ... down-media
Very concerning. It shows why a rock-solid constitutional provision concerning freedom of speech and the press is so important. Leaving such things up to the viscissitudes of the voting public is a bad idea, as is allowing any inroad to have government set orthodoxy or determine truth.
These are the people you side with in supporting Trump. You'd think this would make you second guess your support..
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:40 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:27 am
what's with Merkins setting crosses on fire?
Ultimately, blame the Scots. :leave:
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:46 pm

JimC wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 am
Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war...
That's an English hymn.

"We sang "Onward, Christian Soldiers" indeed, and I felt that this was no vain presumption, but that we had the right to feel that we were serving a cause for the sake of which a trumpet has sounded from on high. When I looked upon that densely packed congregation of fighting men of the same language, of the same faith, of the same fundamental laws, of the same ideals ... it swept across me that here was the only hope, but also the sure hope, of saving the world from measureless degradation."

— Winston Churchill, explaining why he chose the hymn to be played when he and Frankie Roosevelt met on a battleship in 1941.

...such sexist and xenophobic hate speech! :-)
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:51 pm

Seabass wrote:
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Hopefully, these fine people will prevail over those dangerous and violent SJWs!

Hopefully, those aren't the only two options.

“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:57 pm

JimC wrote:
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42, "taking out" "bad media outlets" is a dangerous, sweeping assault on the media and free speech in general. It cannot be compared with proposed narrowly targeted restrictions on true hate speech against people of different colour. Having said that, some on the left tend to broaden suggested targeted restrictions to absurd degrees, which I would oppose - few here support general restrictions based on political correctness alone...
I disagree that it cannot be compared to what you describe as narrowly targeted restrictions, because those restrictions tend not to stay narrow and what some people say are narrow are (as you say) drawn absurdly broad (and are often applied with a double standard - it's racist if white people say it, but not if a "marginalized person" says it - and that's not even an unusual opinion on the topic from the left). Further, the left side of the spectrum had no qualms with talking about fake news from the right, and how it should be regulated and controlled - including on social media.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:50 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:40 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:27 am
what's with Merkins setting crosses on fire?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:57 pm
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:21 pm
42, "taking out" "bad media outlets" is a dangerous, sweeping assault on the media and free speech in general. It cannot be compared with proposed narrowly targeted restrictions on true hate speech against people of different colour. Having said that, some on the left tend to broaden suggested targeted restrictions to absurd degrees, which I would oppose - few here support general restrictions based on political correctness alone...
I disagree that it cannot be compared to what you describe as narrowly targeted restrictions, because those restrictions tend not to stay narrow
Please show where hate speech laws haven't stayed narrow.
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Post by JimC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:36 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:17 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:57 pm
JimC wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:21 pm
42, "taking out" "bad media outlets" is a dangerous, sweeping assault on the media and free speech in general. It cannot be compared with proposed narrowly targeted restrictions on true hate speech against people of different colour. Having said that, some on the left tend to broaden suggested targeted restrictions to absurd degrees, which I would oppose - few here support general restrictions based on political correctness alone...
I disagree that it cannot be compared to what you describe as narrowly targeted restrictions, because those restrictions tend not to stay narrow
Please show where hate speech laws haven't stayed narrow.
Exactly! 42 waves his arms about, excitedly claiming that the fringe chat from a small section of the left has already become law, and is oppressing his rights!
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:45 pm

I predict a link to Jordan Peterson claiming something about Canada, as if we haven't taken that totally to pieces 15 times before.
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