Bach, Goethe, Hegel, Marx, Engels, Feuerbach, Schiller, Brecht, Fritz d. Große and Nietzsche wrote an open letter disassociating themselves from das Volk der Dichter und Denker. Within a few hours almost all German Dichter und Denker signed it. Among the refuseniks were Wagner, Heidegger und natürlich Drumpf.DRSB wrote:Hitler did no do Holocaust all by himself, it is the Volk der Dichter und Denker that helped him.Brian Peacock wrote:As someone once said, Germany fell to the Nazis not because the German people were bad, but because they didn't have the courage to be good.
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There were Sophie Scholls too! Yet, enough people supported it for it to take place. Historical heritage is historical heritage. We digressed from the proposition that education and learnings somehow guarantee democracy and himanity.
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I dare say that voters who were lacking in education and learning were more likely to favour the NSDAP . Statistics indicate a similar trend in the recent US Presidential election.DRSB wrote:There were Sophie Scholls too! Yet, enough people supported it for it to take place. Historical heritage is historical heritage. We digressed from the proposition that education and learnings somehow guarantee democracy and himanity.
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On the orher hand, Hitler was no dumbass like you know who. He went to the same highschool as Wittgenstein, was a gifted artist, orator, writer, none of these attributes apply to Trump.
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Ah, so Hitler woulda been one of those Elites that Trump railed against at his campaign rallies?
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Uh, explain please!Brian Peacock wrote:Ah, so Hitler woulda been one of those Elites Trump that railed against at his campaign rallies?
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Hitler’s biggest failure was as military leader. On the one hand, using 1700s military history of cavalry. On the other not having enough men. Russia had unlimited men and Stalin. No turning back.
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He was very superstitious.Tero wrote:Hitler’s biggest failure was as military leader. On the one hand, using 1700s military history of cavalry. On the other not having enough men. Russia had unlimited men and Stalin. No turning back.
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Don't you remember Trump banging on about all those clever people, the intellectuals, the scientists, the career politicians and financial players, the Elites, who were serving their own interests and doing the ordinary working man down? Adolf the intellectual, with his art and books, his passion for Wagner and political manoeuvring, would have fitted right in to that despicable crew. What was Nazism if not self-selecting elitism?DRSB wrote:Uh, explain please!Brian Peacock wrote:Ah, so Hitler woulda been one of those Elites Trump that railed against at his campaign rallies?
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He probably even drank wine. Every Trump voter drinks Bud Light or Coors, the anti-union brand.
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Oh, he had so many failures and character deficiencies like jealousy and envy, to mention but two. I can imagine how he must have looked at Wittgenstein at high school, this rich Jew, and smart at that!Tero wrote:Hitler’s biggest failure was as military leader. On the one hand, using 1700s military history of cavalry. On the other not having enough men. Russia had unlimited men and Stalin. No turning back.
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Believe it or not, I know university professors who voted for Trump and can explain why. One of them is a Stoicism specialist I know from the stoicism scene. And it is not because Hillary lacks charisma, as some point out. We are back to my proposition that educational level and intelligence is no good predictor of political allegiance.Brian Peacock wrote:Don't you remember Trump banging on about all those clever people, the intellectuals, the scientists, the career politicians and financial players, the Elites, who were serving their own interests and doing the ordinary working man down? Adolf the intellectual, with his art and books, his passion for Wagner and political manoeuvring, would have fitted right in to that despicable crew. What was Nazism if not self-selecting elitism?DRSB wrote:Uh, explain please!Brian Peacock wrote:Ah, so Hitler woulda been one of those Elites Trump that railed against at his campaign rallies?
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