"Due process" is a Violation of Civil Rights?

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"Due process" is a Violation of Civil Rights?

Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:06 pm

The lawsuit asks for an injunction that would eliminate the state’s current court-like system of adjudication, which gives alleged perpetrators the right to an attorney, an evidentiary hearing, and a cross-examination of their alleged victims.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... letes.html

A Title IX lawsuit has been filed against the University of Tennessee by several women who accused several athletes of sexual assault. They are claiming the University is indifferent to their accusations, and violated their rights to equal educational opportunities by following court-like procedures in which accused persons are notified of procedures, given a right to an attorney, and provided a hearing and allowed to confront their accusers. The plaintiffs in the suit think the process takes to long and allows the accused to finish their education and/or move to other schools. Part of the complaint is that accused athletes who changed schools were given well-wishes when they left, even though they had been accused of sexual assault.

This suit sounds rather fishy to me. The part that troubles me is that they actually want to get the court to order that the school be enjoined from giving accused persons the right to an attorney, an evidentiary hearing and the right to cross-examine. I mean, what do they want it replaced with? Accused students representing themselves, with no hearing, no calling and examining of witnesses, etc? Should we just suspend the students on accusation?

And, if these are accusations of felony rapes and sexual assaults, why in the world is this not being handled by law enforcement?
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Re: "Due process" is a Violation of Civil Rights?

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:07 pm

The part that could be reasonable is if the process takes so long that the accused simply go somewhere else before anything happens to them.

But I agree that it is strange that it is not a law enforcement issue...
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Re: "Due process" is a Violation of Civil Rights?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:52 am

Forty Two wrote:
The lawsuit asks for an injunction that would eliminate the state’s current court-like system of adjudication, which gives alleged perpetrators the right to an attorney, an evidentiary hearing, and a cross-examination of their alleged victims.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... letes.html

A Title IX lawsuit has been filed against the University of Tennessee by several women who accused several athletes of sexual assault. They are claiming the University is indifferent to their accusations, and violated their rights to equal educational opportunities by following court-like procedures in which accused persons are notified of procedures, given a right to an attorney, and provided a hearing and allowed to confront their accusers. The plaintiffs in the suit think the process takes to long and allows the accused to finish their education and/or move to other schools. Part of the complaint is that accused athletes who changed schools were given well-wishes when they left, even though they had been accused of sexual assault.

This suit sounds rather fishy to me. The part that troubles me is that they actually want to get the court to order that the school be enjoined from giving accused persons the right to an attorney, an evidentiary hearing and the right to cross-examine. I mean, what do they want it replaced with? Accused students representing themselves, with no hearing, no calling and examining of witnesses, etc? Should we just suspend the students on accusation?

And, if these are accusations of felony rapes and sexual assaults, why in the world is this not being handled by law enforcement?
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Re: "Due process" is a Violation of Civil Rights?

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:22 am

They're mad the college isn't just issuing a summary judgement declaring them guilty and expel them.

Oh, and universities separate quasi legal system dates back to the time when all students were classified as "clergy". It's ridiculous and outdated, if they are accused of rape it should go to the police and follow the normal legal channels everyone else does. Innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until accused :{D
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